One can hope, tons of bad karma and just maybe a bug crept in during the hacking of the bios that is now epoxied in, the company goes down the toilet and all the original hackable systems show up for sale even cheaper with no QNX to run on.

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote: The pins are simply clipped off. So now some careful soldering is required. No biggie. They apparently put epoxy on the back to make it harder but thats minor at best. The bios mod worries me, I may have to work out reflashing it. I still havent gotten mine from CC YET! Since I bought 3/13 any TOS change is bait and switch or breach of contract that existed at that time. The TOS apparently changed between the 3/28 and 4/1. Yes, they are trying to make it like a cable box in that they are the owner and your buying the service. They _may_ think it's unhackable, it still can be but those that fear soldering tools or other gimicks used are out. For the hard core that have hacked military and other confomal coated stuff, it's a minor challenge. The TOS change is harder to get around but when the smoke clears we'll get them for 39cents on the $1 at the going out of business auction. I think a lot of bad press is all the will get now. I'm considering canning the order, but I'd like something small like that that isn't a laptop. We shall see. Allison

In fact, thats the chance to put the connector onto th back side, so you won't need a twisted cable. Jep, but still a company is able to sell something in different packages. Package a) a sole device USD 499, Package b) the device and a 24 Month contract USD 99 + 24 x 20 Compare it to the mobile phone market. An average phone is still about 500 Mark (150 GBP / 250 USD) but if you buy it with an contract, you get it as low as 1 Mark (30 penny/50 cents). Gruss H. -- VCF Europa am 29./30. April 2000 in Muenchen http://www.vintage.org/vcfe http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe

Well, not in Germany - if you rent out eq, your customer recives the RIGHT to get a working unit and so on ... and you are caught as long as the contract is running - while when selling, the you 'only' have to do the usual warenty... That's why almost all of this kind is done by selling with en enclosed subscription (like iOpener). Gruss H. -- VCF Europa am 29./30. April 2000 in Muenchen http://www.vintage.org/vcfe http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe

I saw it last night, what gets me is the "Developer 100" program. It will provide 100 registered developers with iOpeners that they can modify. What a joke. At this point I'd like to apologize to the list for ever bringing these things up. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

You mean the "get signed agreements not to disclose etc. from the top 100 hackers" program. Why is being cynical so much fun?

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I've repaired the machine to the degree and understand the operating system to the degree I can "TELNET NETHER.NET" and log on to the Nether.net free shell account server via ethernet. This is cool. The default route for the sun box is 192.168.0.3 which is an OS/2 Warp 3 machine on my intranet running INJOY (a NAT router) routing over a ansync modem connection. Looks like a real route but isn't ;-) Thought you all might like to know the project is progressing well. The sun box in question is a Sun Sparcstation 330 with 48mb ram. Thanks for everyone who helped. Especially: CHRIS Kennedy for sage advice and hooking me up with software I really need -- legally no less! MICHAEL Lorenz for sage advice Aaron Finney for sage advice! Carlos Murillo for kind assistance Joe@instellistar for laughing at my 'nuke redmond' jokes Jeff Wyman fir moral support R. "bear" Stricklin for asking Chris B for loving me even if I do get hung up on a new machine All of your help has been well appreciated and I hope to continue contact with you all (especially Chrissy because we are to be married in Sept if she doesn't mind a basement full of arcane computer gear) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey S. Worley Technical Services Bits & Bytes Computer Services Inc. 1979B Hendersonville Road Asheville, NC 28803 828-684-8953 - voice 0900-1700 five days 828-687-9284 - 24hr fax Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk? Technoid(a)Cheta.net -----------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry but this type of post is consider off topic unless the truckload of neat old computers is located closer to me in SoCal. ;) Do you have any urges to drive a truck to Disneyland?

I just left CC and they would not sell me the demo unit saying that had to RETURN ALL the old units they had for the new model. Makes me think they had some ones in stock. And they will not take orders for the new model right now. SUCKS ----- Original Message ----- From: <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 2:03 AM Subject: iOpener Update on

At 05:49 PM 4/5/00 -0700, you wrote: I've already given Sellam the e-mail address of a real person inside Nicolet who might know about these old systems. Why not send a polite e-mail to the support address on the Nicolet web page, and see what turns up? - John

Might I suggest posting what your looking for on the sci.techniques.mag-resonance, sci.techniques.spectroscopy, and sci.chem.analytical news groups. This would be the best way to find someone that may still have an 80 or 1080 around that could help you out. I watch these groups regularly, and have seen some Nicolet -related traffic in the past. I have a Nicolet 660 system still in operation here controlling an FTIR spectrometer, but it is a considerably later model and uses the NICOS operating system. Unfortunately, I don't have any of the things that you need. However, at one time they had a Nicolet NMR spectrometer at Rochester Institute of Technology in the Chemistry Department that did use a 1080. I will contact a colleague over there and see if they still have it or any software sitting around. If that fails, I can try to contact Nicolet myself- as a customer about to look at purchasing a new FTIR spectrometer, I may have a bit of leverage. Regards, Kenneth L. Marshall Research Engineer, Optical Materials Laboratory for Laser Energetics University of Rochester 250 East River Road Rochester, NY 14623 Phone:(716)-275-8247 Fax: (716)-275-5960