sure. I can understand my not getting the box but I'm surprised someone lost the discs / manuals in my case... guess they got left on a shelf somewhere and then dumped. hmm. I really must look at what I have again!! hmm, this one had a cream-coloured case. The chassis was built to accomodate a couple of single-height floppy drives, side-by side; I believe it had a floppy controller built into one of the main boards. I think it had a couple of seperate PSUs in it too, one providing +5V and the other doing everything else. All this from memory of course - it's buried behind several layers of other junk at the moment :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page http://uk.my.yahoo.com