I have tried MCM (actually, that is my supplier of choice), and using assorted different premade clutches that are similar... as well as just buying assorted felts, and even a clutch rebuild kit (comes with a dozen different felts)... I have just struck out on getting it right. It has gotton to the point that I am not willing to just randomly try parts anymore... I have sunk around $50 into "trying" and struck out... and we are talking about bringing back to life, cheap, low quality, 2 head, mono VCRs... in my book... not worth the continued experimentation costs. When/if I find the correct part... I will buy a dozen of them, and fix the 5 units I have (and keep the others as spares)... but until then... they have been religated to plain old TV duty. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>