Al, A while back you asked for the Versaplot sources, I have them here with a port to the PC DOS (Ryan-Mcfarland Fortran). I also found them on the web: http://history.dcs.ed.ac.uk/archive/apps/edwin/randomvms/ A google of versaplot turned this up, and also some manuals in what looks like troff format. It looks like all the DECUS stuff is out there itoo f you google a bit. I would like to see your MOVIE.BYU! Randy _________________________________________________________________ i?m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect