Hmm, I never really gave it much thought. It certainly is something to watch out for now that you mention it. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA "R. D. Davis" wrote:

OK already! As the native Tampan water-carrier on this expedition (well, native for 17 years, at least), I have to say you guys (including Sellam) are really geeks. What's a few rats, brown recluses or other bugs? We had a black widow raising a family in a garbage can, so we took care of her. We see a rattlesnake now and then. Yeah, and don't feed the alligators (particularly in the Upper Keys, don't feed the Crocodiles, they are real meanies). You mamby-pamby babies. And you say you want adventure? Ha, I say. Hanta virus? How about Ebola virus? How about an alien abduction? Yaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeee....... Louis On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:09:48 -0500, Chad Fernandez wrote:

Most of the time a Black Widow doesn't bite a person, Most of the time a Brown Recluse does.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote: Imagine finding a cougar crawling around inside an old computer! Better watch out for those suckers. :) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

Jeff Hellige skrev: Hm, that reminds me of one of the old classics on the early web. Tere was a student in New Zeeland whose cat would stay on top of his modem, which was warm and cosy. He also had some sort of permanent connection to his university, so he set up a web server on his Amiga which had an ARexx script which would accept forms input and talk it back with voice synthesis through the speaker, so that people might keep his cat company while he was away. I still have the (presumably broken) link on my '95 vintage homepage. =) -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. VIRGO (Aug 23 - Sept 22) You are the logical type and hate disorder. This nitpicking is sickening to your friends. You are cold and unemotional and sometimes fall asleep while making love. Virgos make good bus drivers.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Fernandez" <fernande(a)internet1.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Rescue of Four Phase Systems mini-computer from Tampa (long) have looks Your're even luckier than us here. We have a thing called a white tail (or white tip) which has venom similarities to the Brown recluse your're describing. Very nasty, often recurring, wounds result, that can leave serious scarring and require surgical excision of the necrotic tissue. Bad news. Prefer the outdoors to sheds, but you get them moderately often in stored equipment. Fortunately they are very unagressive and will bug out if at all possible. Huntsman - biggish 'tarantula' looking spider, only mildy poisonous, and rather unaggressive, but they move fast, and the size of some of them can make you jump 3 feet and hurt yourself. Then we get into the bad stuff. Red Backs (love the same places) Very poisonous, can deadly to kids. Something like a black widow. Very often find these in stuff that's been in a shed for a while. Not particularly aggressive, but can be a problem as they like the undersurfaces of things. Black House spider - Poisonous, not deadly, but can make you very ill, children are particularly at risk. Very common, and like the same sort of places. Probably have several dozen in my house, they like ceiling spaces. Trap door (so called from the holes they usually dig and hide in - with a trap door at the top, don't often find these in electronics, but you get the odd one, distant cousin to the Funnel web. Not as poisonous but makes you ill. Mouse spider - cousin to the Sydney Funnel Web. Nearly as poisonous. Deadly. Almost always Requires Funnel Web antivenene, Big, ugly looking sucker. (If they made Aracnophobia (the movie) with these it would have been even creepier) A family in New South Wales recently found their backyard FULL of these. No apparent reason. The entomologists are still trying to figure out where they came from and why they are in this one particular yard. Scary, they have little kids too. AFAIK, we don't get them around here. Just as well, they are fairly aggro as well. Sydney Funnel Web - not found around here (fortunately) mostly New South Wales and parts of Queensland, deadliest of the lot, leads to major respiratory failure and death in less than an hour if not treated with antivenene QUICKLY. Agressive, particularly in breeding season, and the male is even deadlier. Then we have the snakes. Of the top ten deadliest snakes in the world, we have about 8. At least 3 live locally (King Browns mostly - deadly if untreated) likes the same sort of environment, fortunately they are not that agressive. Common around here, even in towns and cities. There is a resident one in the target shed of the rifle range my cadet unit provide a butt party for on occasion. He is used to people and not a big problem, just make plenty of noise going into the shed, and he gets out the way. Tolerated because he stops mice eating the target material ;^). The Taipan (worst of the lot) is only found in Queensland and parts of the NT. Very mean bugger, known to chase you, and they are FAST, and deadly without an antivenene. Anyone want to move to Oz? ;^) Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)tell.net.au ICQ: 1970476