20 Jan
2004
20 Jan
'04
6:40 p.m.
While digging out the keyboard to scan (see my recent message about
that), I noticed that I had a rather old book that perhaps some here
might be interested in information from.
It's an RCA reference book from 1963, and it contains a lot of data on
various types of vacuum tubes and semiconductor devices of the day,
from vacuum tubes still in use today like the 6L6 I
think I saw
mentioned recently to picture tubes (even a few colour types) to tube
types I've never heard of like "nuvistor" and "novar". There are
a
number of cross-reference tables of various things, indexed by various
useful things. There is a pile of somewhat similar information about
semiconductor devices (though a good deal less in terms of pages in the
book) and a number of pages on batteries. There are then several pages
of ads for devices like multimeters and oscilloscopes and signal
generators, ending with a calendar for 1963 and a few pages of
address-book. There are a few mildly interesting one-page things, like
one giving a number of RCA sales offices, complete with phone numbers
like "WHitehall 4-2900".
I would take a good deal of persuading to part with the book itself.
But if anyone is interested in data from it, including scans of various
portions, drop me a line.
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20 Jan
20 Jan
7:54 p.m.
Quothe der Mouse, from writings of Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 12:40:39AM -0500:
While digging out the keyboard to scan (see my recent
message about
that), I noticed that I had a rather old book that perhaps some here
might be interested in information from.
It's an RCA reference book from 1963, and it
contains a lot of data on
various types of vacuum tubes and semiconductor devices of the day,
Sounds like an RCA receiving tube manual with some solid-state
additions tossed in, etc. A little newer than the RC-19.
from vacuum tubes still in use today like the 6L6 I
think I saw
mentioned recently to picture tubes (even a few colour types) to tube
types I've never heard of like "nuvistor" and "novar". There are
a
Well, it's good that you found this, so now you'll know what they are.
one giving a number of RCA sales offices, complete
with phone numbers
like "WHitehall 4-2900".
Telephone numbers like mine used to start out as RIdgeway 4. :-) Now,
they've made it mandatory to dial the area code before the number for
local calls, and some people don't even include dashes (or anything
else!) between the numbers for readability.
I would take a good deal of persuading to part with
the book itself.
But if anyone is interested in data from it, including scans of various
portions, drop me a line.
Yes, still worth holding onto. Thanks. If you really want to see a
comprehensive RCA tube manual, check out the ten volume, (nearly)
7,000 page, RCA HB-3 which includes everything from ingitrons to
transmitting tubes. :-) It's presently available on CD for about US$80
from Antique Electronic Supply.
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7:57 p.m.
from vacuum
tubes still in use today like the 6L6 I think I saw
mentioned recently to picture tubes (even a few colour types) to
tube types I've never heard of like "nuvistor" and "novar".
Well, it's good that you found this, so now you'll know what they
are. If you really want to see a comprehensive RCA tube
manual, check out
the ten volume, (nearly) 7,000 page, RCA HB-3 which includes
everything from ingitrons to transmitting tubes. :-) It's presently
available on CD for about US$80 from Antique Electronic Supply.
One of the products advertised in the book I have is a five-binder set
which "contains over 5000 pages of loose-leaf data and curves on RCA
receiving tubes, ...". Price "$20.00 including service for first
year", but without specifying what "service" is included.
And it's called the HB-3. :-)
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11:18 p.m.
HB-3 was supplied on a subscription basis- you paid up front for as many
pages/binders as it had at that point in time and your sub paid for all the
additional pages that were published that year. Next year, you paid another
sub to keep getitng the updates. And so on. So the annual service charge was
the subscription fee.
The updates included additional pages and details of pages to be
removed-data on tubes that were obsolete etc. Plus details on getttting
extra binders etc. as they were needed. So HB-3 in it's final form didn't
have all the data ever published on RCA tubes included-just what was deemed
to be worth keeping in the 'system' at that point.
But if you were real cunning- you never pulled any of the pages out once you
started subscribing - your binders were full to overflowing and hard to
manage, but all the data was still in there from the date you started your
subscription.
I have a couple of HB-3s here. They cover different subscription periods so
I have to go thru and rationalise all the data at some stage- (round tuit
territory) - meantime if it's not in one set it's often in the other!
Worth noting that nuvistors are only about 15mm high-very small, and novars
are a class of largish nine pin glass seal types- as used in the line output
stage of the last of the tube based TV sets, etc.
Dave B
Christchurch, NZ
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Well, not really. There were some cutaway drawings of nuvistors; as
near as I can figure, they're just ordinary vacuum tubes except made
with metal rather than glass shells, and with somewhat more
mechanically sturdy element mountings. Novars I still don't know
anything significant about besides the numbers in the table.
from vacuum tubes still in use today like the 6L6 I
think I saw
mentioned recently to picture tubes (even a few colour types) to
tube types I've never heard of like "nuvistor" and "novar".
Well, it's good that you found this, so now you'll know what they
are. If you really want to see a comprehensive RCA
tube manual, check out
the ten volume, (nearly) 7,000 page, RCA HB-3 which includes
everything from ingitrons to transmitting tubes. :-) It's presently
available on CD for about US$80 from Antique Electronic Supply.
One of the products advertised in the book I have is a five-binder set
which "contains over 5000 pages of loose-leaf data and curves on RCA
receiving tubes, ...". Price "$20.00 including service for first
year", but without specifying what "service" is included.
And it's called the HB-3. :-)
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21 Jan
4:31 a.m.
I would take a good deal of persuading to part with
the book itself.
But if anyone is interested in data from it, including scans of various
portions, drop me a line.
I would not bother scanning any of it (although a kind offer, thanks).
Tube information is not hard to get at all. A great deal is already on
the net.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
22 Jan
22 Jan
2:08 p.m.
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 21:40, der Mouse wrote:
It's an RCA reference book from 1963, and it
contains a lot of data on
various types of vacuum tubes and semiconductor devices of the day,
from vacuum tubes still in use today like the 6L6 I think I saw
mentioned recently to picture tubes (even a few colour types) to tube
types I've never heard of like "nuvistor" and "novar".
If the cover sez "RCA Receiving Tubes" it's a reasonably available book,
and even reprinted. There's a number att he bottom, RC-18 or something
like that, there's versions up to RC-39 (or whatever the prefix is). If
it's some obscure industrial types the data could be hard-to-find.
I have a lot of non-receiving tube data available in original (sic) form
at http://wps.com/archives/tube-datasheets/index.html, and a bunch of
semiconductor datasheets at http://wps.com/archives/index.html, all
indexed by device number.
What with the ads you say it has it's likely not just an RCA tube
manual. I wouldn't want to part with it either, lots o'pretty pictures
and cool tech culture stuff.
There are a
number of cross-reference tables of various things, indexed by various
useful things. There is a pile of somewhat similar information about
semiconductor devices (though a good deal less in terms of pages in the
book) and a number of pages on batteries. There are then several pages
of ads for devices like multimeters and oscilloscopes and signal
generators, ending with a calendar for 1963 and a few pages of
address-book. There are a few mildly interesting one-page things, like
one giving a number of RCA sales offices, complete with phone numbers
like "WHitehall 4-2900".
I would take a good deal of persuading to part with the book itself.
But if anyone is interested in data from it, including scans of various
portions, drop me a line.
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2:55 p.m.
It's an
RCA reference book from 1963, and it contains [...]
If the cover sez "RCA
Receiving Tubes" it's a reasonably available
book, and even reprinted. There's a number att he bottom, RC-18 or
something like that, there's versions up to RC-39 (or whatever the
prefix is). If it's some obscure industrial types the data could be
hard-to-find. What with the ads you say it has it's likely not
just an RCA tube
manual. I wouldn't want to part with it either, lots o'pretty
pictures and cool tech culture stuff.
And for me, rather sentimental; it has been my reference for tube
pinouts and heater parameters for as long as I've been doing
electronics - I was doing tubes before I started doing solid state.
But no, it's not just tubes. The receiving tubes section is perhaps
the largest single section, but it's only one of about a dozen
sections, and is no more than about 1/5 of the book.
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3:45 p.m.
If the cover sez "RCA Receiving Tubes"
it's a reasonably available book,
and even reprinted. There's a number att he bottom, RC-18 or something
like that, there's versions up to RC-39 (or whatever the prefix is). If
it's some obscure industrial types the data could be hard-to-find.
Dowd archive. RCAs (almost) complete tube engineering library from the
beginning of time. If you have a question, you can post a query to the
TCA (Tube Collectors Association) list.
William Donzelli
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