20 Dec
2005
20 Dec
'05
1:45 p.m.
From: "Christer O. Andersson" <christer at
a-son.net>
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 11:42:13AM +0000, Jules Richardson wrote:
Hi Again
Maybe that isn't important to him. He might have other
reasons to not use GPL. I've never used it and don't ever expect
to. I see no reason that any of the code that I've published
can't be used by anyone for whatever reason they like. I
know that some bits and pieces have made it into commercial
software. That is OK with me. They can copy the entire thing
if they like.
Dave has his reasons for how he is doing this. The fact that
he doesn't have the software source available does little to
diminish the work that he has done. He is in the process of
developing his code and has stated that he would not like
to release it right now. I'd feel the same myself, even if
I later planned release it to public domain.
As for project help during developement, I've tried it
twice myself. In both cases, the help that was promised
never completed. I'm not mad about it but I realize that
I could have completed it faster on my own. I may try
it again in the future but like a lot of things. Offers
of help are just that, offers. I have not completed some help
projects for others myself. I know why but that doesn't
change the facts.
IMHO
Dwight
care about having source. The only people it
would seem to affect are those
who wanted to take Dave's code, modify it, and release it as though it were
all their own work - and I doubt anyone on this list would be happy with
someone who did that.
You don't get it - that's exactly what GPL protects against. 
20 Dec
20 Dec
2:26 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:45:13PM -0800, Dwight Elvey wrote:
Hi!
Yes, that is of course a personal matter. I am not sure of my own
preference, I think it depends on what kind of software it would
be. The point I was trying to make was that you can actually
release your source without having it snatched away. But that was
not Dave's fear, it was expressed by Jules Richardson. I don't know
whether Dave share that fear or not.
From:
"Christer O. Andersson" <christer at a-son.net>
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 11:42:13AM +0000, Jules Richardson wrote:
Hi Again
Maybe that isn't important to him. He might have other
reasons to not use GPL. I've never used it and don't ever expect
to. I see no reason that any of the code that I've published
can't be used by anyone for whatever reason they like. I
know that some bits and pieces have made it into commercial
software. That is OK with me. They can copy the entire thing
if they like. care about having source. The only people it
would seem to affect are those
who wanted to take Dave's code, modify it, and release it as though it were
all their own work - and I doubt anyone on this list would be happy with
someone who did that.
You don't get it - that's exactly what GPL protects against. Dave has his reasons for how he is doing this. The
fact that
he doesn't have the software source available does little to
diminish the work that he has done. He is in the process of
No, it can be a great thing still, but it is more trustworthy if
you can read the source code, and as I have mentioned enough already,
others can pick it up if the original author for one reason or
another decides to drop the project. I would personally never trust
a tool that can disappear anytime due to the authors wish. It
actually happened here, even if Dave realized it was a bit thick
and changed his mind to let people continue to use the tool.
developing his code and has stated that he would not
like
to release it right now. I'd feel the same myself, even if
I later planned release it to public domain.
As for project help during developement, I've tried it
twice myself. In both cases, the help that was promised
never completed. I'm not mad about it but I realize that
I could have completed it faster on my own. I may try
it again in the future but like a lot of things. Offers
of help are just that, offers. I have not completed some help
projects for others myself. I know why but that doesn't
change the facts.
YMMV of course. If you choose not to publish your code, you will
definately not get any help.
--
Christer O. Andersson
Odensbacken
21 Dec
21 Dec
8:50 a.m.
Christer O. Andersson wrote:
No, it can be a great thing still, but it is more
trustworthy if
you can read the source code, and as I have mentioned enough already,
others can pick it up if the original author for one reason or
another decides to drop the project. I would personally never trust
a tool that can disappear anytime due to the authors wish. It
actually happened here, even if Dave realized it was a bit thick
and changed his mind to let people continue to use the tool.
I think that appiles to 99% of all the code written.
In the case of image disk, have source code may not be needed,
if it written in modules, the only a device driver need to be linked
into his code. Since I don't have a classic machine I have not paid
much to this thread but a lot can be said for getiing a mini - unix
style OS for the older machines. dd and tar can be your friends
provided one can get a -tiny- or -basic- function of the code.
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