When I need a floppy and I grab one out of the stuff box where the unlabelled ones live, I always do a dir first to see what's on the floppy. It's amazing how many of my lost files I find that way. I think the labels fall of and crumble to dust. I found a couple of 5 1/4 floppies with IBM DisplayWrite 3 files on them the other day. Some of the files were from 1984. One file was my resume. It's amazing that I was listing my accomplishments about programming in Fortran IV, and PDP assembly language. Our data was accessed in Datatrieve and we wrote Fortran files to create data sets. We were thinking about a VAX to replace our PDP 11/70. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu