Take a look at this <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/mds800-3/blue-w~1.jpg> I went scrounging Thrusday and went to my favorite scrap yard. I knew I was in trouble as soon as I drove into the place! Everywhere I looked I saw blue. Intel blue! I don't even know how many I bought. I've made two trips bringing it back so far I estimate that over 60% is is still there! The stuff in the picture is PART of what I've brought home so far. The LH stack has a MDS-230 and MDS-225, In front of that is an iUUP EPROM programmer and two MDS keybaords. The next stack has an OLD Intel terminal and a MDS-225. The third stack has a MDS-230, a Mostek dual 8" floppy drive box and an Intel DDR external 8" floppy drive box. On the right is a homebrewed S-100. In front is a SWEAT MDS-800. As you might have guessed from the picture, this stuff is sitting outside. The OL says that I HAVE to clean the house out before Christmas. I have another DDR drive chassis and a big stack of loose Multibus cards inside the house. I found the Multibus cards in a basket of cards that were going to be ground up for the gold scrap. I still at least two more MDS-2??s, a MDS-800, another Intel terminal, several external drive chassis AND (drum roll, please) a dish washer sized Intel external hard drive to pick up. For you heathins, there was also a huge pile of other classic computers. I bought a BBC Acorn, a home brewed S-100 crate, two Morrow external 8" floppy drives, a so far unidentified STD-Bus computer, five new Shugart SA-1004 8" hard drives, AT LEAST 20 Shugart 8" floppy drives, a Wicat computer, four different and FUNKY programmers panels, a rack mount dual 8" floppy drive box made by Mostek, a old but clean Centronics printer, a loaded Cromemco Z-2D, an Osborne OCC-1, a nice 80 TPI 5 1/4" floppy drive in an external case and a mass of other stuff that I can't even remember! I left behind a huge pile of Xerox 820s including external floppy and hard drives, an unidentified Xerox computer that's wider than the 820, a Multibus computer chassis made by Advanced MicroComputers (I think they're a subsidary of AMD) I later found the cards for the AMC computer in the pile of Multibus cards that I dug out of the gold scrap bin so I may go back and get it. Also left behind a GenRad 2300 Advanced Developement System with it's external dual 8" floppy drives and an external expansion chanssis. I wasn't sure what it was but later fround that it's a CPM system. Looks interesting but probably hopeless trying to find docs and SW. To top it all off as I was leaving Friday (trip 2) I went over to see the guy that they have stripping everything. I looked at what he was doing and he was busily gutting a drum memory!!! I looked around and found another that he had already torn one apart and I found there was one more to go. I wasn't intersted in it at the time but now I'm wondering if I should have gotten it. He said it weighed over 140 pounds! It looked like a 1/2 scale v-8 engine! That's all for now, back to cleaning, sorting and packing! Joe