Am 12 Aug 2004 10:33 meinte Cini, Richard: *G* Well, Rich, that'S part of the tool-chain to be used. As I see it, the data format is nothing else, than the lingua franca to connect various tools . After all, a format won't do any work, programms do. In my little definiton there are 3 kind of programms: - Readers A programm that reads the data from the original media and generate a XML representation according to the spec (to be stored somewhere, transferred, whatever, eventualy in a modern environment) - (Meta-)Handlers A programm that archives, cataloges, manages or does whatever with the XML representation. - Writers A programm that gets the XML representation as input and writes it out to the original media. Typicaly readers and writers would be small programms running in the original environment. Also specific for reader and writers is that these programms must have an understanding of the media format they are operate on. A programm that writes the data gathered from the XML representation into a file format understood by an emulator would also fit the writer category. Programm that manipulates the XML repraesentation and or the data within (handers) are a wide variety and include tools like - converting various data formats (e.g. IntelHex <-> Motorola format) - extract data from the representation for useage with other tools - e.g. extract a ROM image to plain IntelHex so it can be downloaded to a PROMer. Or maybe a tool that pulls a media out of a configuration - restructure the XML repraesentation- e.g. if the media is split up into several files or made up as linked sections and a certain (simple) writer is only able to handle a single file with a linear repraesentation, such a tool would include all the external references into one file, and all data directly into the blocks where they occure. As for the records, I have not problem if each of these programms will be a separate class and we end up with a hundret class names :). in fact, emulators who directly read the XML representation are already a hard case to fit in - personaly I see them as Handlers, since the don't _write_ the XML representation, but rather interprete and handle the XML repraesentation. The important part about XML is this tool chain idea. Let's take just the (P)ROM example. Except for the reader, which is specific to a certain computer modell, all other tools can be used to produce a new PROM for any machine, no matter what PROM is to be made. Usualy, if I do a lecture about such things someone comes up with the quite clever idea that this van be done with any format as long as it'S the one used by all tools, and he's right. There is principly no difference between some clever made up XML tags wich may have meaning to a geek, and let's say if we do a TIFF like structure where we go #and calculate all Friday 13th relative to Jan 1st 1900 and use that number as ID. Well, except for the little fuzzy advantage that we don't have to fiddle around with all the meta structure, since it's already done in the XML def, it's open for extensions, and most important, if using a proprietary standard, chances that we can use some third party tool, not sepcialy made to cover our format are ZERO, while when using XML they ate greater than zero. THat's the difference... And if it's only a little commandline tool for XPATH expressions, which already works as query tool for our archive. A simple line as in xpt file:*/*@FORMAT[T6250] lists all files in the current directory that have somewhere a FORMAT tag of T6250 (a tape format) Realy, I love XML (After I got rid of some of the unnecersarry free floating bells and whistles :) Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 6.0 am 30.April und 01.Mai 2005 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/