Duncan Entwisle wrote: The current ones are available on the net (this from about the V6.1 days to the current ones): http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/index.html The rest are (almost) all available in Bookreader format on the various CONOLD CDs. Those are not up on the net but, if you have a hobbyist licence, I believe that you can legally ask for a copy from someone else. It's for this reason that I've never bothered to scan any of the OpenVMS software manuals that I have. There are tools that can read Bookreader and there are probably tools that can turn it into something else (like PDF or HTML). meltie: My grey wall has gone into storage now: the only ones I find I need to hand are the old release notes. Try sending him an email expressing interest, wishing him luck with his auction and asking whether, if they don't sell, you might make an offer at a later date when your circumstances permit. At least that way they won't end up being recycled without you at least getting a look in! Antonio -- --------------- Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org