Well I certainly can't compete with 75 tons, but I picked up an old Tandem system that consisted of two EXT 25 Cabinets (each approx 4'w x 5'h x 3'd weight unknown, but probably about 1000 pounds each). It also had a Kennedy 9300 tape drive in a similarly sized cabinet and 2 8 bay disk drive cabinets (not quite as big but just as heavy). My plan was to put them in my Cellar. However the only access was a narrow wooden stairway. The solution? Rip through the cement floor of my attached garage removing a store room wall that was in the way and then dig a ramp into the floor that drops 4 feet to the cellar floor level. Finally have the cement experts come in and cut 4 foot doorway in my 10" think foundation wall and then have the whole lot re-cemented and the doorway framed up. I didn't actually lift any of the items, they are all on rollers. So I guess I cheated. This doesn't count the new electrical wiring and building a raised floor. Jon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------