Message text written by INTERNET:classiccmp@u.washington.edu owning the rights to this stuff?< No clue. Commodore, of course, went bankrupt. Originally, it looked like ESCOM ended up with everything. I made several efforts to contact ESCOM through e-mail to determine what their plans were for the old 8-bits items, and never could get a reply. Then, ESCOM went bankrupt. I'm not clear if the Commodore bankruptcy court sort of cancelled the deal retroactively, or if the assets were moved again in the ESCOM bankruptcy. Anyway, another party (Gateway?) ended up with the Amiga assets, but they don't have-- or aren't acknowledging that they have-- the old 8-bit assets. Frankly, I doubt this point will ever be clarified. If the old entities have been disolved, and no new entities obtained the rights before the dissolution, it would seem to me this stuff is now public domain. Of course, the simplest way to find out would be to start treating this stuff as public domain. If any entity out there believes it has the copyrights, it will then make itself known. Gil Parrish 107765.1161(a)compuserve.com