8 Oct
1997
8 Oct
'97
1:29 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
You mean I'm not the olnly classiccmp member to
have a space problem...
No. Typical house sizes here in the UK mean that all of us UK members have
it. I imagine many of the US crowd have the same problem, too. In
continental Europe, typical house sizes are larger, but most people live in
apartments, so goodness knows what they do!
Seriously, other than moving (or collecting pocket
calculators), is there
a cure to having more computers than floorspace for them?
If it's just floorspace you're worried about, you can sit them on
shelves, furniture, each other... :-) But I've seen your house, so I
know your problem is worse than mine, and I envy you your tolerant
parents...
The solution is for several people in the same area to club together and
buy a warehouse, derelict factory or ex-secret wartime government
research base. Even an aircraft hangar might do, although the design
parameters are not optimal for computer storage. Any takers? (Central
or SW England for me, London for Tony)
size - from memory, the standard ones are :
DE9 (PC serial port, Atari joystick, etc)
DA15 (Ethernet AUI, PC games port, etc) -- The one we're talking about
DB25 (Standard RS232, PC printer port, etc)
DC37 (PC external disk port, Canon CX engine interface, etc)
DD50 (Sun SCSI port, etc)
The high-density ones are :
DE15 (PC VGA monitor)
DA?? (Never seen it)
DB44 (Never seen it used, but it's in the catalogues)
DC62 (PC expansion cabinet, etc)
That's what I thought. Any idea what the 19 pin one on some Macintoshes
is called?
Philip.
8 Oct
8 Oct
7:51 a.m.
On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote:
Tony Duell wrote:
You can't sit H960's on each other (at least not without a darn tall room
:-)). And a lot of hardware doesn't have a nice flat top. And all the
furniture/shelves are already covered in bits of hardware, manuals,
spares, disk boxes, disk packs, printsets, etc.
You mean I'm not the olnly classiccmp member
to have a space problem...
If it's just floorspace you're worried about, you can sit them on
shelves, furniture, each other... :-) But I've seen your house, so I The solution is for several people in the same area to
club together and
buy a warehouse, derelict factory or ex-secret wartime government
research base. Even an aircraft hangar might do, although the design
Problem is, I know collectors who could fill such a building _on their
own_.
That's what I thought. Any idea what the 19 pin
one on some Macintoshes
is called?
I've seen them called DF19 (and DG23), but I don't think it's official.
Philip.
-tony
8:30 a.m.
Philip Belben wrote:
No. Typical house sizes here in the UK mean that all
of us UK members have
it. I imagine many of the US crowd have the same problem, too. In
continental Europe, typical house sizes are larger, but most people live in
apartments, so goodness knows what they do!
Last weekend I made a concerted effort to free up space in the loft
office I have. You can now see the carpet again, but the cupboards are
well and truly full. Well at least now I'll have space under a desk for
the Sun 2/120 I hope to get this week :-)
If it's just floorspace you're worried about,
you can sit them on
shelves, furniture, each other... :-)
I should take a picture of my loft cupboards to show just how creative
you can get with stacking machines.
But I've seen
your house, so I
know your problem is worse than mine, and I envy you your tolerant
parents...
I have a bit of stuff at my parents, basically stuff that I have picked
up at boot sales while I have been there and then conveniently left.
The solution is for several people in the same area to
club together and
buy a warehouse, derelict factory or ex-secret wartime government
research base. Even an aircraft hangar might do, although the design
parameters are not optimal for computer storage. Any takers? (Central
or SW England for me, London for Tony)
and Cambridge for me.
Kevan
19 Oct
19 Oct
8:49 a.m.
New subject: Space problems in the UK and US
Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote:
No. Typical house sizes here in the UK mean that all
of us UK members have
it. I imagine many of the US crowd have the same problem, too. In
continental Europe, typical house sizes are larger, but most people live in
apartments, so goodness knows what they do!
Hey, all of the BBC shows I see on Public Broadcasting over here in the States
show these huge houses with broad sweeping staircases (which would be great for
stacking a whole lot of desktop-style systems). Am I being deceived by the
media? Do some Brits live in extended closets like we have here in the U.S.?
Actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. My fiancee permits me a whole 8" by
10"
room in the basement for my laboratory. Not much room to actually _move
around_, since three sides are heavy-duty storage shelves, but at least I can
get at half a dozen keyboards and screens from the one chair, an old wooden
"back chair". Of course, I can't have that many systems powered at a time
anyway until I run some more electricity into the room.
--
Ward Griffiths
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
of the last priest." [Denis Diderot, "Dithyrambe sur la fete de rois"]
8:17 p.m.
New subject: Space problems in the UK and US
On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
"back chair". Of course, I can't have
that many systems powered at a time
anyway until I run some more electricity into the room.
Nonsense! I once had 20+ systems all running simultaneously off of one
outlet. (daisy chained power strips.) These outlets were also 1920's
vintage and not grounded... Yup, you could cut cheese on the electric
meter...
LeS
PS This was just a "well lesse what happens when..." type experiment. I
don't *normally* run everything off of one outlet... ;)
20 Oct
20 Oct
4:13 a.m.
New subject: Space problems in the UK and US
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Mr. Self Destruct wrote:
Nonsense! I once had 20+ systems all running
simultaneously off of one
outlet. (daisy chained power strips.) These outlets were also 1920's
vintage and not grounded... Yup, you could cut cheese on the electric
meter...
In the interest of social responsibility, I would not recommend trying
this at home.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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