Hummmphf! I must be real retro then...486DX2/50, 8mb ram, 516mb disk, 1x cdrom, 33.5 modem and no sound capability. I run Gcadd6, PADS, WP5.0 and 6.0 dos, winders3.1. Almost a classic and it does everything I need it to do and adaquately fast. BUT... My s100 z80 crate still sees several hours a day as do my PDP-11s and the vaxen that always has one up full time. All provide useful capability and often surprizing speed when compared to the new GUI. Allison