included are the headers as I typically get them. RDFmail collects the whole mess from SGI unix (or whatever they call it) via mail. Allison <From CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu Wed Aug 25 21:51:24 1999 <Return-Path: &lt;CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu&gt; <Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root(a)lists3.u.washington.edu [140.1 < by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16032; < Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:49:39 -0400 (EDT) <Received: from host (server(a)lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) < by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA0 < Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:49:04 -0700 <Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8] < by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA3 < for &lt;classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu&gt;du>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:48:57 -0700 <Received: from quartz.netsync.net (IDENT:root@quartz.netsync.net [206.231.8 < by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA27 < for &lt;classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu&gt;du>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:48:56 -0700 <Received: from default (jmtnppp191.netsync.net [208.20.32.205]) < by quartz.netsync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA02554 < for &lt;classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu&gt;du>; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:37:06 -0400 <Message-Id: &lt;4.1.19990825213253.00a82460(a)206.231.8.2&gt; <Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:48:41 -0400 <Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu <Precedence: bulk <List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/> <List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:listproc@u.washington.edu?body=unsubscribe%20clas <List-Subscribe: <mailto:listproc@u.washington.edu?body=subscribe%20classicc <List-Owner: <mailto:classiccmp-request@u.washington.edu> (Human contact for <List-Post: <mailto:classiccmp@u.washington.edu> <From: Christian Fandt &lt;cfandt(a)netsync.net&gt; <To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" &lt;classiccmp(a)u.washingto <Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Comments? Proper way to (un)subscribe CLASSICCMP <In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9908221207410.8085-100000@shell1> <References: &lt;4.1.19990821214656.00a99100(a)206.231.8.2&gt; <Mime-Version: 1.0 <Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <X-Sender: cfandt(a)206.231.8.2 <X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN <Status: R < <Upon the date 12:08 PM 8/22/99 -0700, Sellam Ismail said something like: <>On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Christian Fandt wrote: <> <>> Is it true that Jon and some others do not get a type of header containi <>> all the info such others of us do? Such as the following FWD'ed piece o <>> Sellam's msg: <> <>Wow, I've never seen that stuff. Does that appear for every message you <>read in your mailer software? It's probably in the headers, but PINE <>doesn't display it for me. < <Hi Sellam, < <Just got back from a mini vacation down to Dayton, Oh. (That Air Force <Museum just gets better and better . . . :) So, I'm just getting into a <stack of 448 messages piled up since Sunday AM. < <Yes, it does appear for every msg from ClassicCmp. Those five lines just <suddenly started to be included with the header one day and that day _may_ <IIRC, have coincided with the new list server software Derek mentioned tha <the U. of Wash. installed. < <Here's the five extra header lines copied again for those who weren't <keeping track of the thread early on: < <"List-Help: <http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/> <List-Unsubscribe: <<mailto:listproc@u.washington.edu?body=unsubscribe%20classiccmp> <List-Subscribe: <<mailto:listproc@u.washington.edu?body=subscribe%20classiccmp%20YourName> <List-Owner: <mailto:classiccmp-request@u.washington.edu> (Human contact fo <the list) <List-Post: <mailto:classiccmp@u.washington.edu>" < <I haven't ever used PINE but I understand it is a text only email program <(which is what we only need 99.95% of the time.) So, perhaps there's some <funny stuff going on with the formatting of the text and PINE just happily <ignores it. With Eudora Pro, for example, those URLs are underlined links <and all I have to do is click on one if I need to use that function. Sort <of handy I think, but it does add to the length of the msg file. < <I suppose Derek may have weighed-in already with his expert input on the <list s/w, so I'd better shut up now. (Hey, he's a student and keeper of <this list at the U. of Washington, so that makes hime the de facto "expert" < <Regards, Chris <-- -- <Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian <Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net < Member of Antique Wireless Association < URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/ <