4 Jan
2019
4 Jan
'19
8:22 p.m.
have no idea but do have a feeling it might have been like a 'tiny fortran'
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On Friday, January 4, 2019 Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
ELTRAN THE COMPILER
ANY DOCS? ANY ONE? USED IT?
(NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!))
Was? it? one? of the? ones based? on Valtrep?
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2017-March/033410.html
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Grumpy Ol' Fred? ? ??? ??? cisin at xenosoft.com
4 Jan
4 Jan
8:42 p.m.
Would be interesting when you find it.
Not necessarily "tiny"
Remember WATFOR? (very impressive!)
I had a lot of fun with PDQ FORTRAN on 1620.
. . . and, my reply was meant in jest. You are nothing like the fellow
who told us about Valtrep. (other than the sparcity of Google hits)
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Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019, ED SHARPE wrote:
have no idea but do have a feeling it might have been like a 'tiny fortran'
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On Friday, January 4, 2019 Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
ELTRAN THE COMPILER
ANY DOCS? ANY ONE?? USED IT?
(NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!))
Was?? it?? one?? of the?? ones based?? on Valtrep?
http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2017-March/033410.html
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Grumpy Ol' Fred?? ?? ?????? ?????? cisin at xenosoft.com 
10:12 p.m.
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On 1/4/19 8:42 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Would be? interesting when you find it.
Not necessarily "tiny"
Remember WATFOR??? (very impressive!)
I guesss not too many numerical methods types hwere, but ELTRAN is a
subroutine in the EISPACK linear programming set. Yes, it's all FORTRAN:
From the subroutine:
c
c this subroutine is a translation of the algol procedure elmtrans,
c num. math. 16, 181-204(1970) by peters and wilkinson.
c handbook for auto. comp., vol.ii-linear algebra, 372-395(1971).
c
c this subroutine accumulates the stabilized elementary
c similarity transformations used in the reduction of a
c real general matrix to upper hessenberg form by elmhes.
--Chuck
5 Jan
5 Jan
10:10 a.m.
New subject: ELTRAN THE COMPILER ANY DOCS? (NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)))
Okay, I think I found the reference to it.
It turns out that it was a high-school student's project entered in the
"Fourth Annual Computer Programming Contest for Grades 7 to 12'. To quote:
"The 1966 winner was William J. Elliott, a 12th grade student at West
High School in Minneapolis. His project, ELTRAN, is an algorithmic
language compiler system for the UNIVAC 422 computer. Until the
development of ELTRAN, no compiler existed for the computer."
See PDF page 10 here:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/computersAndAutomation/196701.pdf
--Chuck
P.S. One of these days, I'm going to host a course on "how to use Google".
10:17 a.m.
New subject: ELTRAN THE COMPILER ANY DOCS? (NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)))
Since it was a 53-year old high-school project, I doubt that you're
going to find much on it. However, see the post by Steve Schweda here:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/Operating-System-OpenVMS/Left-shift-by-more-th…
He may actually have some familiarity with ELTRAN and know where some
documentation exists.
--Chuck
On 1/5/19 10:10 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Okay, I think I found the reference to it.
It turns out that it was a high-school student's project entered in the
"Fourth Annual Computer Programming Contest for Grades 7 to 12'. To quote:
6 Jan
6 Jan
10:36 a.m.
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At 12:10 PM 1/5/2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Okay, I think I found the reference to it.
It turns out that it was a high-school student's project entered in the
"Fourth Annual Computer Programming Contest for Grades 7 to 12'. To quote:
"The 1966 winner was William J. Elliott, a 12th grade student at West
High School in Minneapolis.
Clearly we should track him down. How many 70-year-old William J. Elliots
could there be?
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