30 Dec
2000
30 Dec
'00
1:44 p.m.
Hi
I have one of these Thomson MO5' now in my collection.
I know it's a PAL video output.
Very little info on the net about this one. Lotta emulators but not
about the real machine hardware.
Would like to know where does the PAL video come out of...
Anybody have a simple suggestion for looking at PAL video signals?
Also would like the pinout for the odd connector coming out of the
unit...
Claude
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30 Dec
30 Dec
2:28 p.m.
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Claude wrote:
I have one of these Thomson MO5' now in my
collection.
Lucky bastard.
I know it's a PAL video output.
Are you certain it's not SECAM? I haven't heard of this machine being
sold outside of France.
Would like to know where does the PAL video come out
of...
Anybody have a simple suggestion for looking at PAL video signals?
PAL TV.
Also would like the pinout for the odd connector
coming out of the
unit...
Is it a 21-pin SCART/P?ritel connector? In that case, I'd suggest
extracting RGB signals from it. Then you won't have to worry about TV
standards. Of course, you need an RGB monitor, but any micro collector has
several, right?
Hmm, looking at http://www.computingmuseum.com/museum/mo5.htm , it seems
that there was indeed a model for export to the rest of Europe. I suppose
this one does indeed supply a PAL signal. This model, the MO5E, had a
mechanical keyboard, too.
Ooh, this page is interesting. Here we encounter a so-called QuickDrive, a
2,8" floppy format. Could this be the same as the 3" disks?
According to http://home.debitel.net/user/groener1/comp_025.htm , there
was also a mechanical keyobard version for the French market, with AZERTY
keyboard.
3:17 p.m.
Iggy Drougge wrote:
Well, now I guess it could be SECAM...dont know really...
Thnaks...but...
I have a Thomson 4120 (just remembered...), I have seen posts on the net
that it supports PAL...4 position switch in front of unit...just says 1
2 3 4 on top of switch positions and of course I dont have the manual...
Nope, mine is a MO5 not a MO5E...nice chicklet/rubber keys...
I heard the MO5's and similar were part of a French Goverment backed
"computers in school program" that was a disaster...We had a similar
experience in Quebec where the goverment bought a ton of IBM compatibles
for schools (cant remember the name now) that were costly and like 50%
IBM compatible...
Claude
> I have one of these Thomson MO5' now in my
collection.
I know
it's a PAL video output.
Are you certain it's not SECAM? I haven't heard of this machine being
sold outside of France. Would like to know where does the PAL video come
out of...
Anybody have a simple suggestion for looking at PAL video signals?
PAL TV. Also would like the pinout for the odd connector
coming out of the
unit...
Is it a 21-pin SCART/P?ritel connector? In that case, I'd suggest
extracting RGB signals from it. Then you won't have to worry about TV
standards. Of course, you need an RGB monitor, but any micro collector has
several, right?
Hmm, looking at http://www.computingmuseum.com/museum/mo5.htm , it seems
that there was indeed a model for export to the rest of Europe. I suppose
this one does indeed supply a PAL signal. This model, the MO5E, had a
mechanical keyboard, too. Ooh, this page is interesting. Here we encounter a
so-called QuickDrive, a
2,8" floppy format. Could this be the same as the 3" disks?
According to http://home.debitel.net/user/groener1/comp_025.htm , there
was also a mechanical keyobard version for the French market, with AZERTY
keyboard.
31 Dec
31 Dec
4:38 a.m.
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2 Jan
2 Jan
12:01 a.m.
On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Tony Duell wrote:
I know for a fact that it does implement RGB, but I wouldn't know on what
kind of connector, since the Thomson micros are rare beasts outside SECAM
country.
I don't really see the point of VTRs outputting RGB, since the signal on
the tape is not. One would assume that most computers indeed are RGB
capable, but one is quickly disilussioned once encountering them IRL. It
seems to be rather rare to be implemented on cheaper micros, at least
externally. My new Spectravideo does not, nor do any VIC-equipped micros.
On a happier note, I just came home from a recycling centre, where I
managed to find two C128D keyboards at 25 crowns (2,5 USD) a piece.
Is it a 21-pin
SCART/P=E9ritel connector? In that case, I'd suggest
extracting RGB signals from it. Then you won't have to worry about TV
I assume you know for a fact that this computer does implement the RGB
pins. Not all devices do (it's _very_ rare to find a VCR that outputs RGB
signals), although I would guess most computers do. One thing I built years ago was a cable with a SCART
plug on one end and
a box on the other with 6 BNC sockets (composite in, composite out, R, G,
B, Blanking), 4 RCA phono sockets (left audio in, left audio out, right
audio in, right audio out) and a 5 pin DIN socket (the various control
lines). It makes connecting SCART sockets to normal monitors, video
sources, etc a lot easier.
I've been intending to build such a set of cables, inspired by video
compying kits. I suppose BNC would be the best connectors. It would save a
lot of effort, since one does not need to make special cables for every
monitor and computer combination you've got.
4:47 a.m.
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9:43 p.m.
New subject: scart cable in US?
One thing I built years ago was a cable with a SCART
plug on one end and
a box on the other with 6 BNC sockets (composite in, composite out, R, G,
I wonder where I could find a SCART connector in the US? It sounds like the
connection I have on a Sony monitor, 130x (x is 4 or 6 or something), that
I have never been able to test.
BTW I have found a couple sources for cables at $25, but I need the much
cheaper kind. ;)
3 Jan
3 Jan
5:13 a.m.
New subject: scart cable in US?
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30 Dec
30 Dec
2:52 p.m.
New subject: Thomson 4120 monitor/Re: Looking at Thomson MO5 PAL video output and MO5 connector pinouts
Hi
(I am answering my own questions...)
Claude wrote:
Hi
I have one of these Thomson MO5' now in my collection.
I know it's a PAL video output.
Very little info on the net about this one. Lotta emulators but not
about the real machine hardware.
Would like to know where does the PAL video come out of...
Anybody have a simple suggestion for looking at PAL video signals?
Actually, I just realised I was the proud onwer of a Thomson 4120
monitor...I looked up the model on the net and I saw that it's supposed
to do RGB/NTSC and...PAL!!!
It's got a 4 position switch in front...to change modes but no ID of the
modes only 1 2 3 4 written above switch positions...
Never knew that when I bought it for $7...Just got it because it did
composite color...hmmmm....I see no RGB looking connector in the
back...only composite , sound and chroma rca jacks...who is familiar
with this unit?
Also would like the pinout for the odd connector coming out of the
unit...
Thats a Scart connection Claude (just realised that..) Look that up on
the web and you will find the pinouts...
Claude
Claude
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