8 Jun
2000
8 Jun
'00
1:13 p.m.
An idea for who use classic computers: since we usually require plenty
of terminals to attach to our classic computers, those compact Apple
Macs, such as the 512K or SE, found in more plentiful supply than
terminals at hamfests, have one very good use: use them as terminals
running terminal emulation software. While other microcomptuers such
as IBM type toy PCs are also useful as terminals for computers, the
old Macintoshes consume less electicity.
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R. D. Davis
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8 Jun
8 Jun
2:03 p.m.
You can get Mac SE's used for under $10 usually. These can have ethernet
cards installed, makes a great terminal with datacomet or bettertelnet.
I've got an SE/30 I use as a packet sniffer with Etherpeek. Or just toss
linux on one (The SE/30, SE's won't run linux)
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)smart.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:13 PM
Subject: Old Macs = cheap terminals
An idea for who use classic computers: since we usually require plenty
of terminals to attach to our classic computers, those compact Apple
Macs, such as the 512K or SE, found in more plentiful supply than
terminals at hamfests, have one very good use: use them as terminals
running terminal emulation software. While other microcomptuers such
as IBM type toy PCs are also useful as terminals for computers, the
old Macintoshes consume less electicity.
--
R. D. Davis
rdd(a)perqlogic.com
http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd
410-744-4900
2:45 p.m.
I've got an SE/30 I use as a packet sniffer with
Etherpeek. Or just toss
linux on one (The SE/30, SE's won't run linux)
Hey! I like that idea! I've got a SE/30 with a SCSI-Ethernet adapter, I'd
not thought of turning it into a Sniffer, and I've been wanting to build
one for when I want to see what's going on with my network. I'd never even
thought of using a Mac for that, I'd been planning on getting an older PC
laptop for that. Actually if I were to use a Mac, I'd probably go with my
PowerBook 540c that I don't use much any more.
GACK!!!! $995.00 Suggested Retail price?!?!? I don't suppose you know of
any *affordable* sniffer's for the Mac? It looks like a beauty, and even
does DECnet (so it does everything I'd need from the looks of it), but
that's way to much for hobbyist use.
Zane
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3:15 p.m.
Try to snag an older version. I picked up Etherpeek 3.0 for $50 from a used
software store on-line. Works fine, or you can do linux/MacBSD and get a
sniffer for free. No pretty X interface though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Old Macs = cheap terminals
I'd
I've got an
SE/30 I use as a packet sniffer with Etherpeek. Or just toss
linux on one (The SE/30, SE's won't run linux)
Hey! I like that idea! I've got a SE/30 with a SCSI-Ethernet adapter,
not thought of turning it into a Sniffer, and I've
been wanting to build
one for when I want to see what's going on with my network. I'd never
even
thought of using a Mac for that, I'd been planning
on getting an older PC
laptop for that. Actually if I were to use a Mac, I'd probably go with my
PowerBook 540c that I don't use much any more.
GACK!!!! $995.00 Suggested Retail price?!?!? I don't suppose you know of
any *affordable* sniffer's for the Mac? It looks like a beauty, and even
does DECnet (so it does everything I'd need from the looks of it), but
that's way to much for hobbyist use.
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
2:33 p.m.
R. D. Davis write:
An idea for who use classic computers: since we usually
require plenty
of terminals to attach to our classic computers, those compact Apple
Macs, such as the 512K or SE, found in more plentiful supply than
terminals at hamfests, have one very good use: use them as terminals
running terminal emulation software. While other microcomptuers such
as IBM type toy PCs are also useful as terminals for computers, the
old Macintoshes consume less electicity.
I wanted to do this bad for my Linux PC back in the '92-93 timeframe,
before Linux was really able to run X-Windows. I wanted one because it was
so nice and small, but in those days they were still out of my price range
(especially since at that time I was a PC user). These days I use VT420's
whenever possible since I can plug one terminal into two computers without
any extra hardware.
OTOH, I regularly use my G4 PowerMac as a Terminal :^) It makes a great
X-Terminal using eXodus, using 100Mbit switched ethernet
X-Windows/DECwindows is nice and fast :^) Plus NiftyTelnet is one of my
favorite terminal emulators.
I also like monitors with dual inputs, and Digital KVM switches :^)
Still if I didn't have a good supply of DEC terminals I'd probably be using
Compact Mac's. Another good solution for the terminally challenged is
*old* laptops, also a good solution when space is a big problem. The only
real use I keep my ancient Twinhead 386sx laptop around for is to use as a
terminal when nothing else is handy, and I'm currently looking for a more
modern laptop with colour to use as an X-terminal.
Zane
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+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
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