Another good fact to add to the Apple I vs. Sun analogy is the fact that Apple is credited with pioneering the desktop/home/personal computer market (mass market that is), while Sun didn't invent the workstation (though they'd like you to think so). For what it's worth, Apollo invented the workstation, though Sun was around fairly soon afterwards.. What irks me is that I read an interview with some Sun guy about the Sun Blade and they claimed they invented the workstation, which is untrue.. ugh. The Apple I also, as was stated, had a very small production as well, and it was the very first product of a company that is still around and very famous, though I'll exclude any thoughts I might have about their hardware... Along those lines, think what a PDP-1 would be worth, with a production of 50 or so, and being A. DEC's first computer system, and B. the machine upon which Spacewar was created.. It is irrelevant if you like or dislike DEC (or Apple), you still can't deny they have made a lasting mark upon the computer industry, unless you like to make yourself look at least somewhat clueless... Just like Da Vinci's ideas, though not so much his paintings, have had a profound influence on Western civilization... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com