19 Mar
2008
19 Mar
'08
11:58 a.m.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
Subject: Re: S100 archive?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Alexandre Souza wrote:
<snip>
> Hey people, why do you do the work? For
personal promotion or to help
> people like you who needed this info sometime and didn't found it?
"The purpose of the internet is for the free
sharing and exchange of other
people's intellectual property." ?
<snip>
I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual "intellectual property."
How about:
"One of the goals of the Classic Computer community is the preservation
and free sharing and exchange of documentation and media related to
obsolete computer systems, with the assumed or explicit permission of
the original owner of the intellectual property."
m
19 Mar
19 Mar
2 p.m.
I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual
"intellectual
property."
The law does, at least in most jurisdictions. (Well, strictly, a
manual, or a scan or photocopy thereof, *embodies* IP, rather than
*being* IP. But that's a distinction not very relevant to the
discussion at hand.)
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7:06 p.m.
>"The purpose of the internet is for the free
sharing and exchange of other
>people's intellectual property." ?
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, M H Stein wrote:
I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual
"intellectual property."
I'd be interested in hearing more of your definition of "intellectual
property". It seems to be different from that used by the USA legal
system, in which a copyrighted manual IS an embodiment of intellectual
property, as is any reproduction, particularly scan or photocopy.
How about:
"One of the goals of the Classic Computer community is the preservation
and free sharing and exchange of documentation and media related to
obsolete computer systems, with the assumed or explicit permission of
the original owner of the intellectual property."
Sounds good.
"There is even some stuff on the internet besides pornography!"
7:39 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT), Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, M H Stein wrote:
> I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual "intellectual
property."
I'd be interested in hearing more of your
definition of "intellectual
property". It seems to be different from that used by the USA legal
system, in which a copyrighted manual IS an embodiment of intellectual
property, as is any reproduction, particularly scan or photocopy.
I think we are in agreement that the IP value of the copy remains with the origional
holder and does not
transfer to the maker of holder of the copy. It gets trickey when dealing with a
photograph of an item.
Is the image the rights of the photographer or remain the rights of the creator of the
photographed item.
Before you answer check out the Rocking Roll Hall of Fame case. Case law has shown that
without a
release the local photographer could not sell his posters. in this case the RRHOF Inc had
an exclusive with
the gift shop and the local guy was cutting into their sales.
Back under my rock ...
Bob
7:25 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:58:41 -0500, M H Stein wrote:
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
Subject: Re: S100 archive?
On Tue, 18 Mar
2008, Alexandre Souza wrote:
<snip>
>> Hey people, why do you do the work? For personal promotion or to help
>> people like you who needed this info sometime and didn't found it? "The
purpose of the internet is for the free sharing and exchange of other
people's intellectual property." ?
<snip> I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual
"intellectual property."
How about:
"One of the goals of the Classic Computer community is the preservation
and free sharing and exchange of documentation and media related to
obsolete computer systems, with the assumed or explicit permission of
the original owner of the intellectual property."
m
Sounds good to me, I would reword it to read ...
"... with the assumed or explicit permission of intellectual property owners of
record."
And then add .....
"If any intellectual property owners feel abused by this, then by all means speek up
and place your
concerns on the record, so they may be addressed."
I think I will add that to my BS: page, I kinda think it says it all.
But just my 2 cents ....
Bob
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