Chuck Guzis wrote: "oooohhhhh! a donut just lieing there" here's my quote ... I don't set the prices. Did anybody build any real projects from radio shack? I picked up a few gated FF's and nand gates but never got farther than that. Just looking at the photos of VCF 8, and grumbles that I can't read the print on the "difference engine 2". How come you never get real projects from children's toys? What extra chips. !? I 'll take input LS nands and FF's and some OC gates .. Even more if they are free. :) .

Yes but I try not to knock them too much. I love it when they put those pin-configurable RJ45 to DB25 adapters on sale for $1.49 - they're absolutely awesome for hooking up terminals and whatnot. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:45 PM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: SN76477N RS's collection of IC's was always very strange. Simple TTL, a little CMOS and then some high-integration devices like the 76477. Same for discretes. Part of getting old is not remembering things. Today I was looking for something (A Cipher 525 tape drive) that I bought NOS years ago and left in its original box. I thought I'd found it, opened the box and discovered a Sinclair ZX80 with the "A Course in BASIC Programming" book. The problem is that I don't remember getting this thing--I'm sure I didn't buy it. Maybe Dave McGlone tossed it in when we were swapping junk years ago. (P.S. I did find the Cipher and discovered that I bought two of them). I don't know if it works, since I don't know the polarity of the 9vdc adapter. Either way, is this just common trash or is this actually worth something?. My wife suggested that I throw it out; she figures that if I didn't even know that I had it after all these years, that I certainly don't need it now. Cheers, Chuck

I'd be interested in getting the AY-3-8910's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: SN76477N

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:05:38 -0000 "a.carlini at ntlworld.com" <arcarlini at iee.org> wrote: It certainly looks somewhat more 'humane' to the books than many of the big scanning operations that libraries have unleashed on their collections. In many cases, books or publications are guillotined (the back of the binding just sliced off) and the individual pages scanned, then the original books are reduced to pulp. There are even cases where the return from sale and disposal of said materials are used to justify the expensive of making the mediocre digital images. This is barbaric, and processes like this should be regarded as vandalism, not the preservation of libraries. I have done similar things in the past, when I was enthralled with the fetishistic notion that 'digital image copies' were the way to go. I sliced and scanned a bunch of my early Circuit Cellar INK volumes. Now I have some mediocre PDFs on aging CDs somewhere and wish I had the original magazines back. This kind of thing is why some of us aren't very enthusiastic about projects like the big Google "Make bad scans of the entire world's book" project. Ultimately, the project will be handed off to mediocre middle managers, to rip and shred much of our historical record. This 'page turner' method looks interesting and somewhat hopeful, but there are numerous books on my bookshelves that have to be read with VERY gentle hands, which machines like this will doubtless still be unleashed at by uncaring library bureaucrats.

I had the idea to build something like this a while ago. In theory *my design* would work acceptably, a few missed pages here and there. But for the amount of time you're saving, I think it would be a non issue. I'll look into it further. I might need some help with the electronics, albeit very simple (like me ;). --- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

a.carlini at ntlworld.com wrote: Watching the video, I have to say this is the coolest invention I have seen in the last half decade. The constant 110 degrees and page flatteners are tres cool. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/

On 11/14/2005 at 7:51 PM woodelf wrote: There are the profiteers, definitely! I was surprised to see a fellow offering DC-600 carts for about $94 the each--and they're not even hard to find for less than $15 new. Speaking of old stuff, who still has a library of Kilobaud from around 1976-1979 to research an article? Cheers, Chuck

On 11/14/2005 at 8:49 PM woodelf wrote: Not likely--IDG purchased the print rights when Kilobaud closed down. Their policy is to permit online access when Hell (and I don't mean the town in Michigan) freezes over. Cheers, Chuck

Oh well, I'll not be upgrading the memory in my 9830, then... My HP9830 has one fully-populated RAM board (4K words) and one half-populated one (2K words). It appears I could add another 32 1103 chips + a couple of buffers and some discretes and bring it up to a total of 8K words. But 1103s are not easy to find (at an affordable price...) -tony