9 Jun
2001
9 Jun
'01
8:53 a.m.
I have pretty much no experience with DEC systems, or at least PDP-11s
anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The
system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I
can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive,
and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get
everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the
drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line
feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually
lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong,
or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Owen
10 Jun
10 Jun
3:04 a.m.
I have pretty much no experience with DEC systems, or
at least PDP-11s
anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The
system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I
can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive,
and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get
everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the
drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line
feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually
lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong,
or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Owen
It sounds to me as if you're doing everything right. You're just not
getting the output on the console you should be. This has me wondering a
few things.
Did you get everything as a whole or is this something you're trying to put
together from a variety of sources? If you did get this as a whole, is it
put together in the same manner it was when this was a working
configuration. Do you have all the packs mounted that were normally
mounted when it was in a working condition.
What version of RSX-11M? Do you know the actual state of your disk pack?
Do you have a terminal besides the LA120? Do you have Serial lines besides
the one the LA120 is on?
Do you have hardware documentation on the 11/34?
Now for anyone reading this, can the 11/34 do something funky like change
the speed of it's console line without having to use hardware jumpers? I
don't think it can, but from the fact that all that's being printed out,
that's my first thought, however, the fact everything looks to work before
trying to boot RSX this doesn't look to be the problem.
Zane
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4:17 a.m.
It could also be the serial line configuration. You may need to set the
terminal for ignore parity, 7 bits, or something like that...
--tom
At 05:04 AM 6/10/01 -0700, you wrote:
I have pretty
much no experience with DEC systems, or at least PDP-11s
anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The
system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I
can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive,
and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get
everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the
drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line
feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually
lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong,
or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Owen
It sounds to me as if you're doing everything right. You're just not
getting the output on the console you should be. This has me wondering a
few things.
Did you get everything as a whole or is this something you're trying to put
together from a variety of sources? If you did get this as a whole, is it
put together in the same manner it was when this was a working
configuration. Do you have all the packs mounted that were normally
mounted when it was in a working condition.
What version of RSX-11M? Do you know the actual state of your disk pack?
Do you have a terminal besides the LA120? Do you have Serial lines besides
the one the LA120 is on?
Do you have hardware documentation on the 11/34?
Now for anyone reading this, can the 11/34 do something funky like change
the speed of it's console line without having to use hardware jumpers? I
don't think it can, but from the fact that all that's being printed out,
that's my first thought, however, the fact everything looks to work before
trying to boot RSX this doesn't look to be the problem.
Zane
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| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
4:38 a.m.
Now for anyone reading this, can the 11/34 do something funky like change
the speed of it's console line without having to use hardware jumpers? I
don't think it can, but from the fact that all that's being printed out,
that's my first thought, however, the fact everything looks to work before
trying to boot RSX this doesn't look to be the problem.
Zane
Nah... It's a standard DL11-W or DL11-E in there... However
it's not uncommon for LA120's to get their baud rates reprogrammed
to be used off a PC when the PDP11's being decommissioned.
I'd try to deposit a 301 (octal) or was that 101 in the
output register to the console output buffer -- (was that 777566) -- I
don't have any docs here. Then I'd see if there's an "A" on the
LA120...
Try that with all the different LA120 baud rates until it matched.
Bill
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6:41 a.m.
Maybe the software is looking for a VT52 / VT100.
DEC serial ports are hard-configured. RSX-11 eh? Eeeeeeek!
Personally, I'd reccomend running RT-11. I have RL01 disks with
RT-11....I really ought to get my 11/34 running again soon....I miss it.
"Zane H. Healy" wrote:
I have pretty
much no experience with DEC systems, or at least PDP-11s
anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The
system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I
can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive,
and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get
everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the
drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line
feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually
lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong,
or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Owen
It sounds to me as if you're doing everything right. You're just not
getting the output on the console you should be. This has me wondering a
few things.
Did you get everything as a whole or is this something you're trying to put
together from a variety of sources? If you did get this as a whole, is it
put together in the same manner it was when this was a working
configuration. Do you have all the packs mounted that were normally
mounted when it was in a working condition.
What version of RSX-11M? Do you know the actual state of your disk pack?
Do you have a terminal besides the LA120? Do you have Serial lines besides
the one the LA120 is on?
Do you have hardware documentation on the 11/34?
Now for anyone reading this, can the 11/34 do something funky like change
the speed of it's console line without having to use hardware jumpers? I
don't think it can, but from the fact that all that's being printed out,
that's my first thought, however, the fact everything looks to work before
trying to boot RSX this doesn't look to be the problem.
Zane
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
7:35 a.m.
on 6/10/01 7:04 AM, Zane H. Healy at healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
It sounds to me as if you're doing everything
right. You're just not
getting the output on the console you should be. This has me wondering a
few things.
Did you get everything as a whole or is this something you're trying to put
together from a variety of sources? If you did get this as a whole, is it
put together in the same manner it was when this was a working
configuration. Do you have all the packs mounted that were normally
mounted when it was in a working condition.
What version of RSX-11M? Do you know the actual state of your disk pack?
Do you have a terminal besides the LA120? Do you have Serial lines besides
the one the LA120 is on?
Do you have hardware documentation on the 11/34?
Now for anyone reading this, can the 11/34 do something funky like change
the speed of it's console line without having to use hardware jumpers? I
don't think it can, but from the fact that all that's being printed out,
that's my first thought, however, the fact everything looks to work before
trying to boot RSX this doesn't look to be the problem.
I got the system as a whole. Everything came from the same person, except
for the LA120, which I bought refurbished from a local dealer. I think the
communications settings have to be correct, because I get the register
printout, and when I send an ASCII character to the LA120 through the
programmer's console, it prints out correctly. I'm not sure I have all the
right packs mounted, because A) I only have 2 of the 3 drives connected, and
B) the labels on a lot of the packs are faded, or have come off completely.
The RSX-11M version is 3.1. The system has 8 (I think) additional serial
lines. I have lots of software manuals, but other than the processor
handbook, I have no hardware documentation. How many RL01 packs does an
average RSX-11M installation use? Also - do the drive numbers (0,1,2...)
depend soley on the order they are connected in?
4:25 a.m.
I have pretty much no experience with DEC systems, or
at least PDP-11s
anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The
system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I
can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive,
and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get
everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the
drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line
feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually
lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong,
or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Owen
Set the LA120 baud rate to 1200 7 bit, noparity...
Check it again.
If it doesn't work... try 300 baud.
If that doesn't work work your way through all the baud rates...
Sounds like it's booting -- but not getting the correct communication
parameters.
Bill
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