12 Aug
2012
12 Aug
'12
1:54 p.m.
And I will add...
That is why simulators are so important. You can get
most of the feel
of the machine from the comfort of your own home.
...and no vintage machines are harmed.
--
Will
12 Aug
12 Aug
4:43 p.m.
On 12 Aug 2012 at 13:54, William Donzelli wrote:
And I will add...
> That is why simulators are so important. You can get most of the
> feel of the machine from the comfort of your own home.
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of typewriter
collectors, but I've not seen a lot of word processor collections.
A working 7090 and peripherals might have some appeal in the same
sort of way that a steam locomotive captures the imagination. Not
more powerful or efficient or faster than an modern diesel-electric,
but very impressive with the steam and noise of it all.
I doubt that many of the younger folk viewing such an exhibition
could tell you the procedure to make a telephone call between, say,
Gleason, Wisconsin and Miami, Florida in 1959 (much less between Gnaw
Bone, Indiana and Horta, Portugal.)
--Chuck
13 Aug
13 Aug
2:18 p.m.
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of
typewriter
I have at least one, and maybe 2 (it depends what the Diablo 3000 was
marketed as :-)). But theyr'e actually jsut 8-bit computers that happen
to run word processing software.
Were there ever more 'hardwired' word provessors? -- things that didn't
use a standard CPU (or even that didn't use a CPU-type architecture at
all). Something like that would be fun.
-tony
4:06 p.m.
On 13 Aug 2012 at 19:18, Tony Duell wrote:
Were there ever more 'hardwired' word
provessors? -- things that
didn't use a standard CPU (or even that didn't use a CPU-type
architecture at all). Something like that would be fun.
Definitely. I think some of the early CPT models were bit-slice.
AES had some--and I believe at least one ECL model. Do you want to
count the IBM MTST or Mag card units in the list?
Many think that word processors were the result of the
microprocessor, but that's simply not true.
--Chuck
14 Aug
14 Aug
2:13 a.m.
Word processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII and DecmateIII plus the
DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
Regards
?
Rod Smallwood
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Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of
typewriter
I have at least one, and maybe 2 (it depends what the Diablo 3000 was
marketed as :-)). But theyr'e actually jsut 8-bit computers that happen
to run word processing software.
Were there ever more 'hardwired' word provessors? -- things that didn't
use a standard CPU (or even that didn't use a CPU-type architecture at
all). Something like that would be fun.
-tony
3:03 a.m.
Rod Smallwood wrote:
Word processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII and
DecmateIII plus the
DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
Regards
Rod Smallwood
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On Behalf Of Tony Duell
Sent: 13 August 2012 19:18
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: To all with interest in preservation (more)
I think the IBM mag card word processors and most notably Wang used a
TTL or simpler logic based architecture in their WP.
I am most likely wrong, but others will clarify.
-jim
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty
of typewriter
I have at least one, and maybe 2 (it depends what the Diablo 3000
was
marketed as :-)). But theyr'e actually jsut 8-bit computers that happen
to run word processing software.
Were there ever more 'hardwired' word provessors? -- things that didn't
use a standard CPU (or even that didn't use a CPU-type architecture at
all). Something like that would be fun.
-tony
11:45 a.m.
On 14 Aug 2012 at 7:13, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Word processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII and
DecmateIII plus
the DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
That's probably because you collect anything DEC. But how about,
CPT, Artec, Lanier, Exxon (yes, the oil company), Harris...?
(I don't count the Xerox Star, because it was something very
different)
--Chuck
12:08 p.m.
On 14 August 2012 16:45, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 14 Aug 2012 at 7:13, Rod Smallwood wrote:
One of these!
http://terminals.classiccmp.org/wiki/index.php/Infoton_I200
With no upper case option.... (Upper case, an OPTION? Egads!)
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Word processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII
and DecmateIII plus
the DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
That's probably because you collect anything DEC. But how about,
CPT, Artec, Lanier, Exxon (yes, the oil company), Harris...?
(I don't count the Xerox Star, because it was something very
different)
12:45 p.m.
On 14 Aug 2012 at 17:08, John Many Jars wrote:
One of these!
http://terminals.classiccmp.org/wiki/index.php/Infoton_I200
With no upper case option.... (Upper case, an OPTION? Egads!)
That's not a word processor, but only a terminal. Back then, it was
not at all uncommon to see lowercase as an option. Most printer
trains in use then were uppercase; systems using 6-bit characters
hadn't totally disappeared yet. Uppercase was quite readable using a
5x7 pixel font, whereas lowercase requires descenders. In the day of
expensive technology, it made a huge amount of sense.
Or is this another case of "you had to be there"?
--Chuck
4:31 p.m.
On 08/14/2012 11:45 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Let's not forget that the DECmate machines are PDP-8s inside. They
can even run OS/8. (well, sort of; a hacked-up, barely-functional
version of OS/8)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Word
processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII and DecmateIII plus
the DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
That's probably because you collect anything DEC. 
11:54 p.m.
On Aug 14, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 14 Aug 2012 at 7:13, Rod Smallwood wrote:
wang m ade a series of dedicated word processors.
Word processors - I have three Decmate, DecmateII
and DecmateIII plus
the DEC Daisy wheel printer (Awaiting restoration) to go with them.
That's probably because you collect anything DEC. But how about,
CPT, Artec, Lanier, Exxon (yes, the oil company), Harris...?
(I don't count the Xerox Star, because it was something very
different)
--Chuck
4:43 a.m.
Certainly. There were a whole class of souped up typewriters. They ranged from the
microcontrolled LCD line editor capability of Mum's Panasonic, up the PC like Amstrad
PCW line -- which were basically just stripped down PCs.
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote:
-- Colin
Or word
processors (who collects those?) Plenty of typewriter
I have at least one, and maybe 2 (it depends what the Diablo 3000 was
marketed as :-)). But theyr'e actually jsut 8-bit computers that happen
to run word processing software.
Were there ever more 'hardwired' word provessors? -- things that didn't
use a standard CPU (or even that didn't use a CPU-type architecture at
all). Something like that would be fun.
-tony
4:56 p.m.
Certainly. There were a whole class of souped up typewriters. They
ranged from the microcontrolled LCD line editor capability of Mum's
That's stil;l a 'genral-purpose processor running software' type of
design. I was thinking of things that didn't use a stnadrd
microprocesosr/microcontroller, but had custom hardare designed for word
processing (like, people have told me, som IBM and Wang machines).
Obviously you'd not od that now, and problaby not in the last 30 years,
but before that...
Panasonic, up the PC like Amstrad PCW line -- which
were basically just
stripped down PCs.
In what sense aee Amstrad PCWs 'stripped down' anything? From what I
rememwebr they were capacble CP/M hacines (with up to 512K RAM, a
bitmapped display, etc) that happeend to coem with word processing software.
Incidnetlal,my although the DECmates were certainly marketed as word
procesosrs, I consider them to be general-purpose comptuers, in fact
desktop PDP8s...
-tony
13 Aug
13 Aug
4:12 p.m.
On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12 Aug 2012 at 13:54, William Donzelli wrote:
I've always thought of MS Word as a word-processing simulator.
- Dave
And I will add...
> That is why simulators are so important. You can get most of the
> feel of the machine from the comfort of your own home.
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of typewriter
collectors, but I've not seen a lot of word processor collections.
5:13 p.m.
On 08/13/2012 04:12 PM, David Riley wrote:
I've always thought of MS Word as a word-processing simulator.
He shoots, he scores.
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
> That is why simulators are so important. You can
get most of the
> feel of the machine from the comfort of your own home.
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of typewriter
collectors, but I've not seen a lot of word processor collections. 
5:31 p.m.
Or word
processors (who collects those?) Plenty of typewriter
collectors, but I've not seen a lot of word processor collections.
I've always thought of MS Word as a word-processing simulator.
6:02 p.m.
On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Don't play into Tony's hands here. ;)
Oh, I'm just a sucker for a cheap joke, that's all. :-)
- Dave
Or word processors (who collects those?) Plenty of
typewriter
collectors, but I've not seen a lot of word processor collections.
I've always thought of MS Word as a word-processing simulator.
6:16 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
Another well known feature. It boosted sales of analgesics.
-jim
I've
always thought of MS Word as a word-processing simulator.
No it's not.
Simulators at least try to do what the thing they simulator
does.
M$ Word is more like a food processor. It turns whatever you give it into
a dog's dinner.
-tony
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