13 May
2003
13 May
'03
1:32 p.m.
I am leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
get one?
I will not participate in any discussion of the
reason.
OK, so we will just speculate wildly and discuss it without you ;)
The decision has been made.
Sounds like someone decided for you. Best of luck, anyway. When
I'm tired of my PDP-8, Sinclair ZX-81, VIC-20, Apple //e, etc. I
just put them back in the closet for a while.
-Charles
13 May
13 May
2:46 p.m.
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Charles wrote:
Go out and buy all sorts of old computer crap. Fill every inch of your
living space with it. Go broke dragging the stuff around with you every
move and trying to find a place to put it. Never go out because you don't
have any money (you spent it on old computer crap). When you do go out,
it's to the hamfest to buy more old computer crap with the few dollars you
have in your account after paying your bills.
Enjoy.
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I am leaving
the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
get one? 
2:51 p.m.
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Charles wrote:
Go out and buy all sorts of old computer crap. Fill every inch of your
living space with it. Go broke dragging the stuff around with you every
Ya forgot one day realizing that you have utterly *no other* friends or
associates who are not Komputer Kollector Krazies(tm) just like you.
And all your wives/girlfriends/SOs get together at said Festivals,
Swapmeets, and Gatherings, and secretly brew up EVIL PLANS....
There's more but I'm runnin' out of Prozac, so I'll shut up now.
Cheerz
John
I am
leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
get one? 
3:04 p.m.
You get Prozac with this lifestyle? SIGN ME UP!
--John
On Tuesday 13 May 2003 19:50 pm, John Lawson wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Charles wrote:
Go out and buy all sorts of old computer crap. Fill every inch of your
living space with it. Go broke dragging the stuff around with you every
Ya forgot one day realizing that you have utterly *no other* friends or
associates who are not Komputer Kollector Krazies(tm) just like you.
And all your wives/girlfriends/SOs get together at said Festivals,
Swapmeets, and Gatherings, and secretly brew up EVIL PLANS....
There's more but I'm runnin' out of Prozac, so I'll shut up now.
Cheerz
John I am
leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
get one? 
3:55 p.m.
Quothe J.C. Wren, from writings of Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:02:22PM -0400:
You get Prozac with this lifestyle? SIGN ME UP!
No. You get something better: Jungian psychoanalysis and a copy of
that excellent book, "Eccentrics," by Jamie James and David Weeks. No
harmful physical side effects, plus you get the pleasure of knowing
that such benefits make the biz'droids in the pharmaceutical
companies, and elsewhere, cringe. :-)
On Tuesday 13 May 2003 19:50 pm, John Lawson wrote:
> Ya forgot one day realizing that you have utterly *no other* friends or
> associates who are not Komputer Kollector Krazies(tm) just like you.
Ok, so your friends may all be reasonably eccentric. So far so good.
> And all your wives/girlfriends/SOs get together
at said Festivals,
> Swapmeets, and Gatherings, and secretly brew up EVIL PLANS....
Hmmm... You've capitalized that. Scribble, scribble. Let's expand
upon the meaning of your capitalization of those words. What does
your capitalization of that signify to you? Does that mean that,
whether you're consciously aware of it or not, you like women who make
evil plans for you?
> There's more but I'm runnin' out of
Prozac, so I'll shut up now.
That's no problem. See what I wrote above. You can be happy without
it. All you really need for happiness are your classic computers,
eccentricity and, perhaps, in your case, women who "secretly brew up
evil plans." ;-)
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16 May
16 May
9:12 a.m.
> > There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE???
No one told me! How do I
> > get one?
>
> Go out and buy all sorts of old computer crap. Fill every inch of your
> living space with it. Go broke dragging the stuff around with you every
You're not hardcore until you start replacing furniture with arrangements
of old computers, ie the stacked Mac plus sofa, microvax endtables.
14 May
14 May
4:41 p.m.
A. Lost Job Selling stuff
B. Wife said "Get this crap out of here or I am leaving" and she was the one
with a job.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles" <charlesmorris(a)direcway.com>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Leaving the hobby
I am leaving
the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
get one?
I will not participate in any discussion of the
reason.
OK, so we will just speculate wildly and discuss it without you ;)
The decision has been made.
Sounds like someone decided for you. Best of luck, anyway. When
I'm tired of my PDP-8, Sinclair ZX-81, VIC-20, Apple //e, etc. I
just put them back in the closet for a while.
-Charles 
6:46 p.m.
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thompson Family wrote:
A. Lost Job Selling stuff
B. Wife said "Get this crap out of here or I am leaving" and she was the one
with a job.
I think it is unfair and unkind to speculate like that. Just
accept what he said and let it go at that.
- don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles" <charlesmorris(a)direcway.com>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Leaving the hobby
> > I am leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
>
> There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
> get one?
>
> > I will not participate in any discussion of the reason.
>
> OK, so we will just speculate wildly and discuss it without you ;)
>
> > The decision has been made.
>
> Sounds like someone decided for you. Best of luck, anyway. When
> I'm tired of my PDP-8, Sinclair ZX-81, VIC-20, Apple //e, etc. I
> just put them back in the closet for a while.
>
> -Charles
15 May
15 May
1:34 p.m.
If you can't be unkind and unfair in speculating then why speculate at all?
Lighten up. You make a cryptic statement and naturally people are going to
react to it. Rushing to be mister sensitive is more annoying than cycinysm..
and not nearly as entertaining.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Maslin" <donm(a)cts.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Leaving the hobby
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thompson Family wrote:
> A. Lost Job Selling stuff
> B. Wife said "Get this crap out of here or I am leaving" and she was the
one
with a job.
I think it is unfair and unkind to speculate like that. Just
accept what he said and let it go at that.
- don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles" <charlesmorris(a)direcway.com>
> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:30 PM
> Subject: Leaving the hobby
>
>
> > > I am leaving the hobby/lifestyle of classic computing.
> >
> > There's a classic computing LIFESTYLE??? No one told me! How do I
> > get one?
> >
> > > I will not participate in any discussion of the reason.
> >
> > OK, so we will just speculate wildly and discuss it without you ;)
> >
> > > The decision has been made.
> >
> > Sounds like someone decided for you. Best of luck, anyway. When
> > I'm tired of my PDP-8, Sinclair ZX-81, VIC-20, Apple //e, etc. I
> > just put them back in the closet for a while.
> >
> > -Charles 
16 May
16 May
7:29 a.m.
Aww - what fun is that? How about this:
Bill's Top 10 Reasons to Leave the Classic Computer Hobby
10) Landlord has voiced concerns over sagging floors and melting wiring.
9) People mistaking your place for the local landfill keep dropping off
old appliances in your yard.
8) Electric bill has exceeded the GNP of several 3rd-world countries.
7) You haven't seen your kids for several days, but you keep hearing
muffled scratching noises coming from that last set of 9-track drives.
6) Not only can you no longer get the car in the garage; now you can't
even get it in the driveway.
5) Al Gore hanging around claming to have invented half of your stuff.
4) EPA has declared your house a hazardous waste site due to all the PCBs.
3) You've become the target of drive-by bulk-erasings.
2) Ever since that incident with the card sorter, your dog refuses to
come out from under the bed.
and the number one reason...
1) A 40-year-old man at the Star Wars premier dressed as Yoda heard
about your hobby and told you to "GET A LIFE!"
---
Thank you, thank you. You're too kind. You've been a wonderful audience!
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Don Maslin wrote:
I think it is unfair and unkind to speculate like
that. Just
accept what he said and let it go at that.
- don
3:09 p.m.
Bill's Top 10 Reasons to Leave the Classic
Computer Hobby
10) Landlord has voiced concerns over sagging floors and melting wiring.
9) People mistaking your place for the local landfill keep dropping off
old appliances in your yard.
8) Electric bill has exceeded the GNP of several 3rd-world countries.
7) You haven't seen your kids for several days, but you keep hearing
muffled scratching noises coming from that last set of 9-track drives.
6) Not only can you no longer get the car in the garage; now you can't
even get it in the driveway.
5) Al Gore hanging around claming to have invented half of your stuff.
4) EPA has declared your house a hazardous waste site due to all the PCBs.
3) You've become the target of drive-by bulk-erasings.
2) Ever since that incident with the card sorter, your dog refuses to
come out from under the bed.
and the number one reason...
1) A 40-year-old man at the Star Wars premier dressed as Yoda heard
about your hobby and told you to "GET A LIFE!"
The list is a riot! Unfortunatly #'s 10, 8, and 4 sound a bit to serious,
I've actually worried about all three of them. Though #3 & 2 are down right
hysterical! :^)
Zane
17 May
17 May
2:30 p.m.
> 4) EPA has declared your house a hazardous waste
site due to all the PCBs.
Is this a deliberate double-meaning of 'PCB' (PolyChlorinated Biphenyls
.vs. Printed Circuit Boards)? THe former are what the EPA moans about
(and are not that common in classic computers [1]) the latter are not
particulalry hazardous...
[1] Although I suspect some mains-frequency EHT transformers and PSU cans
> 1) A 40-year-old man at the Star Wars premier
dressed as Yoda heard
> about your hobby and told you to "GET A LIFE!"
What's a 'life'?
-tony
6:31 p.m.
On Sat, 17 May 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
But they are classed as "hazardous waste" in California, and a growing
number of other states.
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> 4) EPA
has declared your house a hazardous waste site due to all the PCBs.
Is this a deliberate double-meaning of 'PCB' (PolyChlorinated Biphenyls
.vs. Printed Circuit Boards)? THe former are what the EPA moans about
(and are not that common in classic computers [1]) the latter are not
particulalry hazardous... 
19 May
19 May
5:31 a.m.
On Sat, 17 May 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
But they are classed as "hazardous waste" in California, and a growing
number of other states.
But if it's your personal stuff, you can take a "household exemption".
Peace... Sridhar
> 4) EPA has declared your house a hazardous waste
site due to all
> the PCBs.
Is this a deliberate double-meaning of 'PCB' (PolyChlorinated
Biphenyls .vs. Printed Circuit Boards)? THe former are what the EPA
moans about (and are not that common in classic computers [1]) the
latter are not particulalry hazardous...
6:16 a.m.
On Sun, 18 May 2003 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
But they are classed as "hazardous waste" in California, and a growing
number of other states.
But if it's your personal stuff, you can take a "household exemption".
Well, technically they are not considered "hazardous" until they enter the
waste stream.
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Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
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> 4) EPA has declared your house a hazardous waste
site due to all
> the PCBs.
Is this a deliberate double-meaning of 'PCB' (PolyChlorinated
Biphenyls .vs. Printed Circuit Boards)? THe former are what the EPA
moans about (and are not that common in classic computers [1]) the
latter are not particulalry hazardous...
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