5 Dec
2003
5 Dec
'03
4:25 a.m.
Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html
10,000 Space Invaders units to be sold in the US for $2,772 apiece. But
because of inflation, the cost per game is now going to be 50 cents!
<rant>
Are these people on crack?! What development time went into this? What
costs are they recouping? Or do they just want to gouge the classic
gamers?
</rant>
Cheers,
Bryan Pope
5 Dec
5 Dec
4:52 a.m.
Its ridiculous price gouging, the cost to put such a unit together is under
$400. Midway has been doing this same thing for a while with its Ms Pac
Man/Galaga units, Atari has a Missile Command/Millipede/Centipede machine
out there and one thing that article doesn't mention is just like the Midway
machine, the Taito unit is also a dual machine with both Space Invaders and
Qix together...
These are already available in the US, Frontgate has them for $3495 each,
you can also find them through Amazon.com and Walmart.com as well... all
way overpriced.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html
10,000 Space Invaders units to be sold in the US for $2,772 apiece. But
because of inflation, the cost per game is now going to be 50 cents!
<rant>
Are these people on crack?! What development time went into this? What
costs are they recouping? Or do they just want to gouge the classic
gamers?
</rant>
Cheers,
Bryan Pope
5:20 a.m.
My brother-in-law's MAME cabinet features a 27" screen, dual
multicontrollers, coin box, car stereo with decent speakers and subwoofer,
plays MP3's and movies, SERVES MP3's and movies to the rest of the house
(controlled by his iPaq over WiFi :) and plays all the classics, and cost
less than $1000. Of couse, building it all and writing the custom software
took a while, but it's a sweet machine.
I wonder what's in those new boxes.. Think it's just an embedded micro
running an emulator? Fewer parts == cheaper to build.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
Its ridiculous price gouging, the cost to put such a
unit together is
under
$400. Midway has been doing this same thing for a
while with its Ms Pac
Man/Galaga units, Atari has a Missile Command/Millipede/Centipede machine
out there and one thing that article doesn't mention is just like the
Midway
machine, the Taito unit is also a dual machine with
both Space Invaders
and
Qix together...
These are already available in the US, Frontgate has them for $3495 each,
you can also find them through Amazon.com and Walmart.com as well... all
way overpriced.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html
Check this out:
10,000 Space Invaders units to be sold in the US for $2,772 apiece. But
because of inflation, the cost per game is now going to be 50 cents!
<rant>
Are these people on crack?! What development time went into this? What
costs are they recouping? Or do they just want to gouge the classic
gamers?
</rant>
Cheers,
Bryan Pope
5:40 a.m.
And thusly Jason McBrien spake:
My brother-in-law's MAME cabinet features a 27" screen, dual
multicontrollers, coin box, car stereo with decent speakers and subwoofer,
plays MP3's and movies, SERVES MP3's and movies to the rest of the house
(controlled by his iPaq over WiFi :) and plays all the classics, and cost
less than $1000. Of couse, building it all and writing the custom software
took a while, but it's a sweet machine.
Sounds like a nice spring project!! Is there any good places on the web
that sell/have plans for arcade cabinets?
How does it serve the MP3s? Over ethernet or something else? Is the 27"
screen a normal TV put on its side?
I wonder what's in those new boxes.. Think
it's just an embedded micro
running an emulator? Fewer parts == cheaper to build.
It will probably be hard to find the board!
Cheers,
Bryan
7:11 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Bryan Pope
Sent: 05 December 2003 19:41
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
I helped shift some tables for these people a couple of years ago:
http://www.digitaltables.co.uk/home.htm
Suffice to say they're bloody heavy things and were very popular last time I
saw them. A bit pricey at the time mind.
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
My brother-in-law's MAME cabinet features a
27" screen, dual
multicontrollers, coin box, car stereo with decent speakers and
subwoofer,
plays MP3's and movies, SERVES MP3's and
movies to the rest of the house
(controlled by his iPaq over WiFi :) and plays all the
classics, and cost
less than $1000. Of couse, building it all and
writing the
custom software
took a while, but it's a sweet machine.
Sounds like a nice spring project!! Is there any good places on the web
that sell/have plans for arcade cabinets?
2:24 p.m.
And thusly Witchy spake:
Sounds like a nice spring project!! Is there any good places on the web
that sell/have plans for arcade cabinets?
I helped shift some tables for these people a couple of years ago:
http://www.digitaltables.co.uk/home.htm
Suffice to say they're bloody heavy things and were very popular last time I
saw them. A bit pricey at the time mind.
cheers
Actually I was looking for a website that had/sold plans to build my own
arcade cabinet.. That's why I said *spring* project cause I would need to
keep all of the wood dust outside and away from my computers...
Cheers,
Bryan
6 Dec
6 Dec
4:14 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Bryan Pope
Sent: 06 December 2003 04:25
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
This is true. I'm going to try and get an old scrap cabinet that I can
spruce up and stick in the hallway. Even the Missus says she doesn't mind
that as long as I put Ms.Pac Man on :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
I helped shift some tables for these people a
couple of years ago:
http://www.digitaltables.co.uk/home.htm
Suffice to say they're bloody heavy things and were very
popular last time I
saw them. A bit pricey at the time mind.
cheers
Actually I was looking for a website that had/sold plans to build my own
arcade cabinet.. That's why I said *spring* project cause I
would need to
keep all of the wood dust outside and away from my computers... 
5 Dec
5 Dec
9:45 a.m.
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 19:40, Bryan Pope wrote:
And thusly Jason McBrien spake:
>
> My brother-in-law's MAME cabinet features a 27" screen, dual
Sounds like a nice spring project!! Is there any good
places on the web
that sell/have plans for arcade cabinets?
Indeed it does! I have a 'proper' old goldfish-bowl style 19" ex-Sun
monitor that's reserved for just such a cabinet one day, when space
permits (as I want the authentic feel of the cabinet too, not a newer
flat screen). I had it running happily with the DOS version of MAME a
couple of years ago (which also had the advantage over Windows / Linux
that it could just be switched off without the need to be shut down)
Last time I had a serious look at this (and had a homebrew cocktail
cabinet machine up and running with a 15" screen) there were ROMs and
plans aplenty out on the 'net for download. One problem I found was that
I could find nowhere in the UK to supply the 'proper' big round
pushbutton controls as used on the old arcade machines - all the ones
sold here were too small.
I had a quick look on the 'net about a year ago though, and it seems
like all the old game manufacturers had got upset over copyright issues
and virtually all of the ROM sites had been shut down. I guess they
hadn't given up on the idea of making a huge profit on this again one
day, and now it looks like that day may be here...
How does it serve the MP3s? Over ethernet or
something else?
I'm curious on that too - another project I was wondering about as I'm
fed up hauling CDs out to the garage when I'm working there and them
getting all dusty..
> I wonder what's in those new boxes.. Think
it's just an embedded micro
> running an emulator? Fewer parts == cheaper to build.
Maybe they still have a stockpile of the original Z80 (and friends)
boards and are just dropping those straight in... :-)
cheers
Jules
6 Dec
6 Dec
4:49 a.m.
On 5 Dec 2003, Jules Richardson wrote:
Last time I had a serious look at this (and had a
homebrew cocktail
cabinet machine up and running with a 15" screen) there were ROMs and
plans aplenty out on the 'net for download. One problem I found was that
I could find nowhere in the UK to supply the 'proper' big round
pushbutton controls as used on the old arcade machines - all the ones
sold here were too small.
Did you also look for elevator buttons? Same size/style. Perhaps you can
hit up an elevator manufacturer?
--
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12:59 p.m.
I don't recall this being mentioned before, but I've found that Happ
Controls (http://www.happcontrols.com) has everything you need to build a
proper MAME setup. The buttons are reasonably priced. The trackball will
give you a bit of heartburn. The spinner is a must-have. Don't buy a coin
door from Happ. You can get them on eBay for about $30 + shipping.
If you go to my main Web page, below, and follow the link to the MAME
project, you can see how I did it. Right now, I only have the control panel
done, but this winter I hope to build the cabinet, modelled after the
Defender cabinet. There are several good upright plans out there, but look
for Lusid's Defender-style plans.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer
Festival
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:50 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
On 5 Dec 2003, Jules Richardson wrote:
Last time I had a serious look at this (and had a
homebrew cocktail
cabinet machine up and running with a 15" screen) there were ROMs and
plans aplenty out on the 'net for download. One problem I found was that
I could find nowhere in the UK to supply the 'proper' big round
pushbutton controls as used on the old arcade machines - all the ones
sold here were too small.
Did you also look for elevator buttons? Same size/style. Perhaps you can
hit up an elevator manufacturer?
--
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Festival
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8 Dec
8 Dec
7:59 a.m.
Check eBay (in hte US). I've bought arcade buttons, the exact ones used in arcade
cabinets.
Joe
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On 12/6/2003 at 10:49 AM Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On 5 Dec 2003, Jules Richardson wrote:
Last time I had a serious look at this (and had a
homebrew cocktail
cabinet machine up and running with a 15" screen) there were ROMs and
plans aplenty out on the 'net for download. One problem I found was that
I could find nowhere in the UK to supply the 'proper' big round
pushbutton controls as used on the old arcade machines - all the ones
sold here were too small.
Did you also look for elevator buttons? Same size/style. Perhaps you can
hit up an elevator manufacturer?
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers
]
[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] 
5 Dec
5 Dec
5:49 a.m.
Probably a 20 square inch off-the-shelf embedded pc
based (386/486) single board computer (pc104 or
whatever) running DOS or Windows, cheap and
development systems widely available. Thats what I
would use anyway.
--- Jason McBrien <jbmcb(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
__________________________________
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I wonder what's in those new boxes.. Think
it's just
an embedded micro
running an emulator? Fewer parts == cheaper to
build.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html
Its ridiculous price gouging, the cost to put
such
a unit together is
under
$400. Midway has been doing this same thing
for
a while with its Ms Pac
Man/Galaga units, Atari has a Missile
Command/Millipede/Centipede machine
out there and one thing that article doesn't
mention is just like the
Midway
machine, the Taito unit is also a dual machine
with both Space Invaders
and
Qix together...
These are already available in the US, Frontgate
has them for $3495 each,
you can also find them through Amazon.com and
Walmart.com as well... all
way overpriced.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
Check this out:
>
> 10,000 Space Invaders units to be sold in the US
for $2,772 apiece. But
> because of inflation, the cost per game is
now
going to be 50 cents!
>
> <rant>
> Are these people on crack?! What development
time went into this? What
> costs are they recouping? Or do they just
want
to gouge the classic
> > gamers?
> > </rant>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bryan Pope
> >
>
>
6:41 a.m.
Thats a good question, it would be nice to know what inside those puppies...
Curt
Jason McBrien wrote:
My brother-in-law's MAME cabinet features a
27" screen, dual
multicontrollers, coin box, car stereo with decent speakers and subwoofer,
plays MP3's and movies, SERVES MP3's and movies to the rest of the house
(controlled by his iPaq over WiFi :) and plays all the classics, and cost
less than $1000. Of couse, building it all and writing the custom software
took a while, but it's a sweet machine.
I wonder what's in those new boxes.. Think it's just an embedded micro
running an emulator? Fewer parts == cheaper to build.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
Its ridiculous price gouging, the cost to put such
a unit together is
under
$400. Midway has been doing this same thing for
a while with its Ms Pac
Man/Galaga units, Atari has a Missile Command/Millipede/Centipede machine
out there and one thing that article doesn't mention is just like the
Midway
machine, the Taito unit is also a dual machine
with both Space Invaders
and
Qix together...
These are already available in the US, Frontgate has them for $3495 each,
you can also find them through Amazon.com and Walmart.com as well... all
way overpriced.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
>Check this out:
>
>
>
>
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html
10,000
Space Invaders units to be sold in the US for $2,772 apiece. But
because of inflation, the cost per game is now going to be 50 cents!
<rant>
Are these people on crack?! What development time went into this? What
costs are they recouping? Or do they just want to gouge the classic
gamers?
</rant>
Cheers,
Bryan Pope
7:08 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Curt Vendel
Sent: 05 December 2003 20:42
To: General(a)jupiter.easily.co.uk;
Discussion@jupiter.easily.co.uk:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades...
Thats a good question, it would be nice to know what inside those
puppies...
A big cow made of cash I'd expect.....
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
5:56 a.m.
Its ridiculous price gouging, the cost to put such a
unit together is
under
$400. Midway has been doing this same thing for a
while with its Ms Pac
Man/Galaga units, Atari has a Missile Command/Millipede/Centipede machine
out there and one thing that article doesn't mention is just like the
Midway
machine, the Taito unit is also a dual machine with
both Space Invaders
and
Qix together...
These are already available in the US, Frontgate has them for $3495 each,
you can also find them through Amazon.com and Walmart.com as well... all
way overpriced.
Curt
Companies need to make a profit, they more they can squeeze out of a
customer the better. These units are for arcades I assume, where the
operator will make the money back and hopefully then some from kids with
pockets full of cash. Not many home users would spend $400 let alone $3495
for a cabinet with just 1 or 2 games in it.
I would pump a few quarters into a pacman machine if I ran into one
somewhere just because I played quite a few games on them when they were
originally released (more quarters then I care to think about).
6 Dec
6 Dec
9:55 a.m.
New subject: Dec BA400 available on m.v.o
Anybody who needs a BA400 case from a Vax 4000 I just posted on up for sale
on marketplace.vintage.org Would be willing to work out a trade for a Dec
Pro 350 or 380....
Curt
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