11 Oct
2000
11 Oct
'00
8:46 p.m.
Yet-to-be-plundered Jerry Springer Topics:
Upright Vintage Computer Collector is secretly an E-Bay Slut and once
sold a Royal McBee to the highest bidder: a scrapper from Taiwan.
London-based Enthusiast and Under-Employed Physicist admits to
converting all his Classics to 110 VAC 60Htz and using a hidden rotary
inverter in his basement. Discovered after neighbors complained to police
about the incessant humming, and late night cries of "It Lives!!! It
Lives!!!"
Ex VCF Promoter and Producer gives up profitable consulting business,
salty wit and caustic repartee, to take up new carreer as a Sunday School
Teacher and Spiritual Counsellor in the Great Midwest.
You *GO*, girlfr'en!
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Cheers
John
11 Oct
11 Oct
11:46 p.m.
New subject: early non-US personal computers
Hey unamericans, any candidates for personal computers made outside of the
US before 1976 (other than Micral)?
Define "personal computer" any way you like to as long as you define it
this way: digital, (semi)automatic, programmable, accessible/available,
small, inexpensive, and simpler than an F-14 fighter jet :-) Turing
completeness helps, but I'm flexible.
I'm looking for foreign brothers of machines like the Altair
(microprocessor), Kenbak-1 (discrete logic), Minivac (clocked relays),
GENIAC (rotary switches), etc. I'm also looking for pointers to old (say,
1940-1970) electronic hobbyist mags outside of the US.
Thanks,
Doug
12 Oct
12 Oct
1:14 a.m.
New subject: early non-US personal computers
Doug Salot wrote:
I'm looking for foreign brothers of machines like
the Altair
(microprocessor), Kenbak-1 (discrete logic), Minivac (clocked relays),
GENIAC (rotary switches), etc. I'm also looking for pointers to old (say,
1940-1970) electronic hobbyist mags outside of the US.
On the last point (and related to the first) Wireless World is a British
magazine published since 1910. I have bound volume 73 January 1967 to
February 1968 which states "Fifty-seventh year of publication". It still
survives as "Electronics World" which seems to be available in the US.
This particular volume is of interest to me because of the series of
articles starting in the August 1967 issue describing the "Wireless
World Digital Computer".
Implemented in transistors the "computer" was and 8-bit word serial
machine with 3
"memory" locations. No programming as such, you set up an instruction on
a set of switches.
A team of students two years older than I built this at the school I
attended and I had the pleasure of looking after for a year or two.
We did some work on setting up a sequencing system to run programs via
strwoger switches but never really got anytthing to work reliably.
Two other magazines published in the UK were Practical Wireless and
Practical Electronics.
Happy memories....
-- Hans B Pufal
Thanks,
Doug
2:57 a.m.
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Doug Salot
<doug(a)blinkenlights.com> wrote:
I'm looking for foreign brothers of machines like
the Altair
(microprocessor), Kenbak-1 (discrete logic), Minivac (clocked relays),
GENIAC (rotary switches), etc. I'm also looking for pointers to old (say,
1940-1970) electronic hobbyist mags outside of the US.
Early UK machines:
Science of Cambridge MK14 (SC/MP CPU)
Acorn System One (6502 CPU)
Tangerine MicroTan (6502 CPU)
Nascom-1 (Z80 or 8080 I think)
UK Magazines (and published constructional projects):
Practical Wireless
Practical Electronics (UK101 with 6502 CPU in 1979)
Everyday Electronics
Electronics Today International (6800 machine in 1977)
Hobby Electronics
Wireless World
Elektor (Junior Computer, SC/MP I think)
Personal Computer World (Early issues included electronics)
--
John Honniball
Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk
University of the West of England
8:29 a.m.
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11:14 a.m.
New subject: early non-US personal computers
IIRC the Junior Computer was 6502 based. They did
publish an SC/MP
machines as well, and the 'video game comuter' which was 2650-based. More
recently (like this year :-)) they've published various microcontroller
boards.
I build the junior and it is definitly 6502 based.
In 1974 the dutch version of elector "Elektuur" published a complete machine
based on TTL . It had a choice of "cheap" memory consisting of CCD
shiftregisters (-> no random access...) , and expensive memory consisting of
2102's. I very much regret that I do not have these articles anymore., altough
they were not up to the normal Elektor standard.
Jos Dreesen
15 Oct
15 Oct
1:38 a.m.
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At 12:57 12/10/00 +0100, John Honniball wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Doug Salot
<doug(a)blinkenlights.com> wrote:
About the same time as the original Altair articles appeared in the US,
Electronics Australia published construction details for a personal
computer that was a cut-down PDP-8. Yes, I know there's not much to an -8
but the EA system had fewer instructions. It's been a while since I read
the articles but suspect the system was made from 7400 series ICs. I do
recall it had 256 words of memory and a LED based front panel.
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au
| "If God had wanted soccer played in the
| air, the sky would be painted green"
I'm looking for foreign brothers of machines
like the Altair
(microprocessor), Kenbak-1 (discrete logic), Minivac (clocked relays),
GENIAC (rotary switches), etc. I'm also looking for pointers to old (say,
1940-1970) electronic hobbyist mags outside of the US.
UK Magazines (and published constructional projects):
Practical Wireless
Practical Electronics (UK101 with 6502 CPU in 1979)
Everyday Electronics
Electronics Today International (6800 machine in 1977)
Hobby Electronics
Wireless World
Elektor (Junior Computer, SC/MP I think)
Personal Computer World (Early issues included electronics)
12 Oct
12 Oct
9:10 a.m.
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7:03 a.m.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, John Lawson wrote:
Yet-to-be-plundered Jerry Springer Topics:
ROFL! :-)
Upright Vintage Computer Collector is secretly an
E-Bay Slut and once
sold a Royal McBee to the highest bidder: a scrapper from Taiwan.
Whew! ...some #$%*!@!! only found out a about my selling that system
to the scrapper and not the little-known, unused, ENIAC clone that was
found in the basement of a warehouse sold as gov't surplus. However,
would you believe that these were just honest $^%^!*%$@! mistakes and
that I was conned by the *#$&*#! b*&^%rds? ;-)
London-based Enthusiast and Under-Employed Physicist
admits to
converting all his Classics to 110 VAC 60Htz and using a hidden rotary
inverter in his basement. Discovered after neighbors complained to police
about the incessant humming, and late night cries of "It Lives!!! It
Lives!!!"
Hmmm...
Ex VCF Promoter and Producer gives up profitable
consulting business,
salty wit and caustic repartee, to take up new carreer as a Sunday School
Teacher and Spiritual Counsellor in the Great Midwest.
Who has given up his favorite words to his students who surprise their
parents with their new vocabulary; he is then never heard uttering
another bad word in the presence of adults. A few months later, he
finds this lifestyle to not be profitable enough and starts the cult
of the Sellamites who tell of his most blessed holiness, and his
spiritual teachings and revelations, in airports and strip shopping
centers around the world, while selling flowers and cheap PC-clones
running MS-Windows for him out of the back of decrepit minivans also
used to recruit new followers.
--
Copyright (C) 2000 R. D. Davis "The best way to gain a true understanding of
All Rights Reserved Wile E. Coyote on the Roadrunner cartoons is to
rdd(a)perqlogic.com 410-744-4900 fly, head-first, off a horse into something like
http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd a fence or a tree; trust me, this works." --RDD
7:22 a.m.
> Ex VCF Promoter and Producer gives up
profitable consulting business,
> salty wit and caustic repartee, to take up new carreer as a Sunday School
> Teacher and Spiritual Counsellor in the Great Midwest.
Who has given up his favorite words to his students
who surprise their
parents with their new vocabulary; he is then never heard uttering
another bad word in the presence of adults. A few months later, he
finds this lifestyle to not be profitable enough and starts the cult
of the Sellamites who tell of his most blessed holiness, and his
spiritual teachings and revelations, in airports and strip shopping
centers around the world, while selling flowers and cheap PC-clones
running MS-Windows for him out of the back of decrepit minivans also
used to recruit new followers.
Of course they wear all the same black T-Shirts with the holy
letters N E R D on the front... And he himself will monitor
his children in front of one of his 365 Perqs...
:))
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 2.0 am 28./29. April 2001 in Muenchen
http://www.vintage.org/vcfe
http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe
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