20 Aug
2012
20 Aug
'12
4:45 a.m.
I'm still searching for a pdp-11/70 front panel bezel. Does anyone have a
spare? Does anyone know what the part number is for this thing? That
would be very helpful.
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dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
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20 Aug
20 Aug
4:56 a.m.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
I'm still searching for a pdp-11/70 front panel
bezel. Does anyone have a
spare? Does anyone know what the part number is for this thing? That would
be very helpful.
groan...a me too posting - I need one too please.
Anyone know why the bezel is left behind? they look as though they
screwed on, were they prized as frames for artwork perhaps?
10:48 a.m.
On 8/20/12 1:56 AM, Nigel Williams wrote:
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM, David
Griffith<dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Many machines were converted to use the remote diagnostic panel (KY11-R).
You might have some luck finding one of those, which has pretty low
value to collectors, just to get the bezel back.
I'm still searching for a pdp-11/70 front
panel bezel. Does anyone have a
spare? Does anyone know what the part number is for this thing? That would
be very helpful.
groan...a me too posting - I need one too please.
Anyone know why the bezel is left behind? 
11:23 a.m.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
Many machines were converted to use the remote
diagnostic panel (KY11-R).
You might have some luck finding one of those, which has pretty low
value to collectors, just to get the bezel back.
I'm trying to go the other way... I have two 11/70s with the remote
diagnostic panel, and a partially-stripped 11/70 full front panel PCB
(it was free, but missing all the switches as part of a two-into-one
repair by someone else (who is on this list ;-)). It's good to hear
the cast bezel is the same. I'd still need to either find/produce
switch covers and find the C&K switches with the square mounting clips
(not the common variety) to restore it.
So I've been following this discussion to see what to do with my own
system. Thanks!
-ethan
6:48 p.m.
speaking of the 11/70 look whars poped up on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Remote-Diagnostic-Panel-complete-kit-…
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Al Kossow <aek at
bitsavers.org> wrote:
Many machines were converted to use the remote
diagnostic panel (KY11-R).
You might have some luck finding one of those, which has pretty low
value to collectors, just to get the bezel back.
I'm trying to go the other way... I have two 11/70s with the remote
diagnostic panel, and a partially-stripped 11/70 full front panel PCB
(it was free, but missing all the switches as part of a two-into-one
repair by someone else (who is on this list ;-)). It's good to hear
the cast bezel is the same. I'd still need to either find/produce
switch covers and find the C&K switches with the square mounting clips
(not the common variety) to restore it.
So I've been following this discussion to see what to do with my own
system. Thanks!
-ethan
7:15 p.m.
On 08/20/2012 06:48 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
speaking of the 11/70 look whars poped up on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Remote-Diagnostic-Panel-complete-kit-…
That's mine. Bid early, bid often!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
9:46 p.m.
Are you finally finished moving????
That has to be the longest running move I'd ever heard of!
Steve
On 8/20/2012 7:15 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 08/20/2012 06:48 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
speaking of the 11/70 look whars poped up on
ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Remote-Diagnostic-Panel-complete-kit-…
That's mine. Bid early, bid often!
-Dave
10:29 p.m.
On 08/20/2012 09:46 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
Are you finally finished moving????
That has to be the longest running move I'd ever heard of!
Not quite. One more truck. The move has been going on for about a
year. There have been nine trucks so far; seven 24' liftgate trucks and
two 16' non-liftgate.
~50 racks, about a dozen racks' worth of gear for which there are no
racks, about a hundred 14" disk packs of various flavors (for CDC9762,
9766, DEC RL01/02, RA60), ~1100 books, 1000+ 9-track magtapes with tape
racks, ~25 terminals, ~40 desktop-class computers, a large electronics
lab involving four racks of test equipment and lots of bench gear,
component stocks comprising many tens of thousands of components.
Oh, and a couch.
All while working full-time++ on the most demanding job I've had in
fifteen years. Here's me, on Interstate 95 one of those road trips,
writing firmware on a laptop with a prototype of my new design (the one
that just shipped) while my lady drove:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-write-firmware.jpg
...and here's me debugging hardware on the little table in a hotel
room with a portable oscilloscope while stopped for the night, I think
in South Carolina:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-debug-hardware.jpg
It has been a very busy year, and I am getting really tired. But I'm
happy anyway! (just thought I'd share!)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
10:53 p.m.
On 8/20/2012 7:29 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-write-firmware.jpg ...and
here's me debugging hardware on the little table in a hotel room with
a portable oscilloscope while stopped for the night, I think in South
Carolina: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-debug-hardware.jpg It
has been a very busy year, and I am getting really tired. But I'm
happy anyway! (just thought I'd share!) -Dave
Real-men rotate their pictures to not cause sudden neck strain to people
unfortunate enough to click on their links ;)
10:59 p.m.
On 08/20/2012 10:53 PM, mc68010 wrote:
Sorry, that was taken with my phone.
Oddly, when I pull them to my desktop machine and display them there,
they are not rotated sideways. I've run across this before but
dismissed it in a rush. Is there something in the EXIF data or
something that conveys rotation?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-write-firmware.jpg ...and
here's me debugging hardware on the little table in a hotel room with
a portable oscilloscope while stopped for the night, I think in South
Carolina: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-debug-hardware.jpg It
has been a very busy year, and I am getting really tired. But I'm
happy anyway! (just thought I'd share!) -Dave
Real-men rotate their pictures to not cause sudden neck strain to people
unfortunate enough to click on their links ;)
11:11 p.m.
On 8/20/2012 7:59 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Oddly, when I pull them to my desktop machine and
display them there,
they are not rotated sideways. I've run across this before but
dismissed it in a rush. Is there something in the EXIF data or
something that conveys rotation? -Dave
There is an EXIF rotation tag. You probably need to export it out of a
photo application to create a new jpeg with the right orientation. I
don't think any browsers care about EXIF. I could be wrong though. It
begs the question though. Do you take all your pictures laying down ?
11:17 p.m.
On 08/20/2012 11:11 PM, mc68010 wrote:
Only the good ones. ;)
That picture was likely taken with the phone (an iPhone) held sideways.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Oddly, when I
pull them to my desktop machine and display them there,
they are not rotated sideways. I've run across this before but
dismissed it in a rush. Is there something in the EXIF data or
something that conveys rotation? -Dave
There is an EXIF rotation tag. You probably need to export it out of a
photo application to create a new jpeg with the right orientation. I
don't think any browsers care about EXIF. I could be wrong though. It
begs the question though. Do you take all your pictures laying down ? 
11:24 p.m.
On 8/20/2012 7:59 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 08/20/2012 10:53 PM, mc68010 wrote:
Sorry, that was taken with my
phone.
Oddly, when I pull them to my desktop machine and display them there,
they are not rotated sideways. I've run across this before but
dismissed it in a rush. Is there something in the EXIF data or
something that conveys rotation?
-Dave
Some viewers may retain the view info, but doesn't change the data. If
you rotated it once a year ago and forgot about it,, the info probably
is in some small metadata file on your system that is serving up the photos.
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-write-firmware.jpg ...and
here's me debugging hardware on the little table in a hotel room with
a portable oscilloscope while stopped for the night, I think in South
Carolina: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/real-men-debug-hardware.jpg It
has been a very busy year, and I am getting really tired. But I'm
happy anyway! (just thought I'd share!) -Dave
Real-men rotate their pictures to not cause sudden neck strain to people
unfortunate enough to click on their links ;) 
21 Aug
21 Aug
3:42 p.m.
On 21/08/2012 03:59, Dave McGuire wrote:
There's an EXIF Orientation tag, an XMP Tiff Orientation tag, and an
IPTCImageRotation tag. Browsers and simple image display software
typically ignore them, but many cameras and pretty much all sensible
image management or editing software honours them.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On 08/20/2012 10:53 PM, mc68010 wrote:
Real-men
rotate their pictures to not cause sudden neck strain to people
unfortunate enough to click on their links ;)
Sorry, that was taken with my phone.
Oddly, when I pull them to my desktop machine and display them there,
they are not rotated sideways. I've run across this before but
dismissed it in a rush. Is there something in the EXIF data or
something that conveys rotation?
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