13 Jan
2011
13 Jan
'11
4:16 a.m.
A random thought popped into my head this evening, and having nothing
better to do (well, ok, I have quite a few things better to do to be
honest) I decided to go with the impulse.
The idea? I have a number of nubus Mac coprocessors and accelerators,
amongst them:
- An Orange386 PC coprocessor (16Mhz 80386, 4MB ram, CGA graphics)
- A Radius Rocket Stage II (Basically a Quadra on a 12" nubus card,
complete with 40Mhz CPU and 32mb of RAM)
- A Symbolics MacIvory III (The coolest coprocessor ever -- a lisp
machine on a card!)
Could I run these all at the same time in my trusty Macintosh IIfx?
The answer: Yes. (warning, 1600x1200 image):
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/random/5OS.png
That's a 40Mhz 68030 IIfx running System 7.6.1, the Radius Rocket
running System 7.1, the Orange386 running DOS 5.0, the MacIvory running
Genera 8.3, and just for good measure the IIfx is also running Tenon's
MachTEN (BSD 4.3 running as a Mac OS process).
I didn't leave it running like that for very long, as it's probably more
than a bit stressful on the poor IIfx's power supply. But I just had to
try it, thought you guys might get a kick out of it...
- Josh
13 Jan
13 Jan
4:29 a.m.
New subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (at the same time)
Hah! That is awesome!
Lisp machine on a card was the icing on the cake :)
/P
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:16:25AM -0800, Josh Dersch wrote:
A random thought popped into my head this evening, and
having
nothing better to do (well, ok, I have quite a few things better to
do to be honest) I decided to go with the impulse.
The idea? I have a number of nubus Mac coprocessors and
accelerators, amongst them:
- An Orange386 PC coprocessor (16Mhz 80386, 4MB ram, CGA graphics)
- A Radius Rocket Stage II (Basically a Quadra on a 12" nubus card,
complete with 40Mhz CPU and 32mb of RAM)
- A Symbolics MacIvory III (The coolest coprocessor ever -- a lisp
machine on a card!)
Could I run these all at the same time in my trusty Macintosh IIfx?
The answer: Yes. (warning, 1600x1200 image):
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/random/5OS.png
That's a 40Mhz 68030 IIfx running System 7.6.1, the Radius Rocket
running System 7.1, the Orange386 running DOS 5.0, the MacIvory
running Genera 8.3, and just for good measure the IIfx is also
running Tenon's MachTEN (BSD 4.3 running as a Mac OS process).
I didn't leave it running like that for very long, as it's probably
more than a bit stressful on the poor IIfx's power supply. But I
just had to try it, thought you guys might get a kick out of it...
- Josh
3:10 p.m.
New subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (at thesame time)
How do you like the MacIvory III?
I have a couple IIfx machines and I have them stuffed with cards (had one
with dual Radius Rockets before, DSP cards plus I have 386 and 486 Orange
Micro cards).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at mail.msu.edu>
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Subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (at
thesame time)
A random thought popped into my head this evening, and
having nothing
better to do (well, ok, I have quite a few things better to do to be
honest) I decided to go with the impulse.
The idea? I have a number of nubus Mac coprocessors and accelerators,
amongst them:
- An Orange386 PC coprocessor (16Mhz 80386, 4MB ram, CGA graphics)
- A Radius Rocket Stage II (Basically a Quadra on a 12" nubus card,
complete with 40Mhz CPU and 32mb of RAM)
- A Symbolics MacIvory III (The coolest coprocessor ever -- a lisp machine
on a card!)
Could I run these all at the same time in my trusty Macintosh IIfx?
The answer: Yes. (warning, 1600x1200 image):
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/random/5OS.png
That's a 40Mhz 68030 IIfx running System 7.6.1, the Radius Rocket running
System 7.1, the Orange386 running DOS 5.0, the MacIvory running Genera
8.3, and just for good measure the IIfx is also running Tenon's MachTEN
(BSD 4.3 running as a Mac OS process).
I didn't leave it running like that for very long, as it's probably more
than a bit stressful on the poor IIfx's power supply. But I just had to
try it, thought you guys might get a kick out of it...
- Josh
6:46 p.m.
New subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (at thesame time)
> Could I run these all at the same time in my
trusty Macintosh IIfx?
>
> The answer: Yes. (warning, 1600x1200 image):
> http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/random/5OS.png
THAT IS AWESOME.
Well done!
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17 Jan
17 Jan
1:37 a.m.
New subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (at the same time)
On 1/13/2011 12:10 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
How do you like the MacIvory III?
It's a very nice card, and it makes playing with a real Lisp Machine
much easier -- considerably less space & noise than a full LispM, and it
allows me to use standard monitors and hard disks as well (the full 3600
and XL series machines either use specific ESDI drives (which are
getting very hard to find) or SCSI disks that support being formatted to
1280-byte sectors (which are also pretty hard to find). I have the
Symbolics ADB keyboard adapter, so I can use a real 'bolix keyboard with it.
Genera is a wonderful operating system/development environment, at least
if you like Lisp :). It's proof (as far as I'm concerned) that it's
possible to make a system that's both powerful and user-friendly (it
just takes a lot of design effort.)
I just wish my MacIvory was a revision that's compatible with 68040
systems, I'd rather have it running in my Quadra 950, but the IIfx does
a good job, too.
I have a couple IIfx machines and I have them stuffed with cards (had
one with dual Radius Rockets before, DSP cards plus I have 386 and 486
Orange Micro cards).
Cool. The Rockets are cool cards, though I'm not quite sure what to do
with them :). It's also limiting that they only support up to System
7.1, given that they're basically Quadras, it'd be nice to run OS 8.1 on
one in my IIfx.
I also have the AST Mac286 card set, which I haven't gotten running yet
-- it appears the software doesn't like to run on System 7.6. Wish I
knew how to make a hard drive image larger than 20mb for the Orange386
card -- 20mb is pretty limiting, and I have gigabytes of space available....
- Josh
9:28 a.m.
New subject: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx (atthe same time)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Dersch" <derschjo at mail.msu.edu>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Because it's there: 5 operating systems running on a IIfx
(atthe same time)
I also have the AST Mac286 card set, which I
haven't gotten running yet --
it appears the software doesn't like to run on System 7.6. Wish I knew
how to make a hard drive image larger than 20mb for the Orange386 card --
20mb is pretty limiting, and I have gigabytes of space available....
- Josh
I looked around and only found my 486 manual, have the 386 one somewhere and
when I find it I will look up partition information (currently I am running
the 486 boards and the 386 are on the shelf).
31 Jan
31 Jan
11:50 p.m.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Josh Dersch <derschjo at mail.msu.edu> wrote:
A random thought popped into my head this evening, and
having nothing better
to do (well, ok, I have quite a few things better to do to be honest) I
decided to go with the impulse.
The idea? ?I have a number of nubus Mac coprocessors and accelerators,
amongst them:
- An Orange386 PC coprocessor (16Mhz 80386, 4MB ram, CGA graphics)
- A Radius Rocket Stage II (Basically a Quadra on a 12" nubus card, complete
with 40Mhz CPU and 32mb of RAM)
- A Symbolics MacIvory III (The coolest coprocessor ever -- a lisp machine
on a card!)
Could I run these all at the same time in my trusty Macintosh IIfx?
The answer: Yes. (warning, 1600x1200 image):
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/random/5OS.png
That's a 40Mhz 68030 IIfx running System 7.6.1, the Radius Rocket running
System 7.1, the Orange386 running DOS 5.0, the MacIvory running Genera 8.3,
and just for good measure the IIfx is also running Tenon's MachTEN (BSD 4.3
running as a Mac OS process).
I didn't leave it running like that for very long, as it's probably more
than a bit stressful on the poor IIfx's power supply. ?But I just had to try
it, thought you guys might get a kick out of it...
*Pauses for a minute of silent admiration*
I am envious of your toybox. Very. :?)
All you have to do now is find a way to add A/UX onto that. ;?)
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1 Feb
1 Feb
11:40 p.m.
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On 1/31/2011 8:50 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
*Pauses for a minute of silent admiration*
I am envious of your toybox. Very. :?)
Aww, shucks.
All you have to do now is find a way to add A/UX onto
that. ;?)
That would be a trick, definitely. Would be cool if I could run it on
the Radius Rocket, but it doesn't appear to be possible. (Nor is it
possible to run anything later than System 7.1 on it, unfortunately.
Would be *really* nice to run System 8.1 on it. Or maybe netbsd :))
- Josh
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