I've always wanted a 2-sided-capable laser printer, preferably a Laserjet IIId or 4D, but, yesterday I ran onto a pretty thoroughly equipped LaserJet IID and couldn't resist. I find, however, that HP has no longer got the electronic versions of its user's manual, technical reference, or service manual on its web site. Doesn anybody have a pointer to these documents on the 'net?

Tony Duell wrote: The paper pickup roller at the front - first contact to feed paper. Thanks.

Some people change the entire shaft. Personnally, I just replace the roller...

Make sure you note the relative alignment of the rollers and the clutch. In theory it only fits one way, in practice you can get it 180 degrees out.

You have a Laserjet IID (33447A)printer, right? Is it a duplexer problem, paper pickup, etc problem? I don't have the normal manual but I have the consolidated one for all of the "classic" laserjets, except the IIIsi/4Si (they still print that, consolidated into one). I work HP printers all the time and much of the info is burned into my NVRAM on top of my shoulders, although sometimes the system clock is off a little and it takes a few minutes to extract the info (grin) The IID and IIID printers are big but run cheaply and easily. Here's what HP shows for the still avilable service manual (includes shipping): p/n 33459-90906...$83.00...33447A/33459A LaserJet IID/IIID Combined Service Manual Since I'm an HP ASP I can get a discount and could get it for you for $75 rather than $83, even have it shipped from HP direct to you (or anyone else in the US)-agian that is for the printed/bound manual and shipping. There is no electronic version in existance that I know of and I too would love to have it if there was/were. -> -----Original Message----- -> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Richard Erlacher -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:51 AM -> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> Subject: ancient laserjets -> -> -> I've always wanted a 2-sided-capable laser printer, preferably a -> Laserjet IIId -> or 4D, but, yesterday I ran onto a pretty thoroughly equipped -> LaserJet IID and -> couldn't resist. I find, however, that HP has no longer got the -> electronic -> versions of its user's manual, technical reference, or service -> manual on its web -> site. -> -> Doesn anybody have a pointer to these documents on the 'net? -> -> thanx, -> -> Dick -> -> ->

You can try cleaning the pickup rollers and registry roller with a clean cloth and iso alcohol - don't use platen cleaner or MEK, they will fall apart. As far as the duplex function, it comes in very handy (I have a Lexmark LX+ w/netcard, duplexer, second tray, envelope feeder, etc) and I use it all the time as most of my hard print manuals were PDF form when I got them and I've printed them without problems. You should be able to select duplex on/off in the printer driver and on the control panel. If you select duplex on with the panel it will be on all of the time, where using the duplex in the print driver can be used temp or permanently. Don't vacuum the excess dust and toner with a household vac- you'll fry the vac with the metallics in the toner and subject the printer to static. If anything use a dry clean cloth to get as much up as possible and then canned air for the rest but don't blow it into the fuser area. -> -----Original Message----- -> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Richard Erlacher -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:47 PM -> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> Subject: Re: ancient laserjets -> -> -> There's no problem, aside from the need for a bit of cleaning. -> particularly of -> the pickup rollers. I just want to gather up the documentation -> before it all -> disappears. There are things that this printer will do that my -> others, being -> simpler, won't do. One, I hope, is print on both sides of the -> paper without my -> intervention. This will save a lot of hassle whenever someone -> asks me for a -> printed copy of something. -> -> The printer in question has two trays, some sort of assembly on -> the back that's -> absent from my other II's and III's and it has a couple of font -> cartridges, the -> value of which is a mystery to me, since the printer fonts are -> downloadable -> anyway, I hope. -> -> I haven't used a II in about a decade, since I've had III's for -> over a decade -> and recently got a few more (I couldn't pass 'em up at $4 each, -> since they had -> fairly full toner cartridges. One of 'em even had a memory -> board just like the -> one I bought for over $100 a decade or so ago.) -> -> I'm interested in things like the available options, RAM -> expansion connector -> pinout, etc. This printer has 2.5 MB of RAM, but my other II -> has only the half -> MB that comes standard with 'em. I have TONS of DRAMs and, -> since the printer -> just sends addresses and data (at least in the case of the III) -> to the memory -> board, I figure I can either buy one for a few bucks or build -> one myself. Over -> the years I've trimmed memory arrays off boards that were going -> into the trash, -> so I have arrays of various physical sizes, ranging from 256Kx8 -> to 256Mx32. -> It's possible that one or another of those will save me a lot of wiring. -> -> I also have a JetLan board in an LJ3 that I might consider -> moving to the IID if -> it will work there and use the thing as a standalone server as -> the III has been. -> With its duplexing capabilities that would be useful, though I'm -> not convinced -> the LJ-IID can use the JETLAN board. If not, I'll just attach -> it to the Netware -> server. -> -> Thanks for the info. I'll save your email address so I can -> contact you off-list -> if I have a problem I can't figure out. -> -> Dick -> -> ----- Original Message ----- -> From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> -> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:08 PM -> Subject: RE: ancient laserjets -> -> -> > You have a Laserjet IID (33447A)printer, right? -> > -> > Is it a duplexer problem, paper pickup, etc problem? I don't -> have the normal -> > manual but I have the consolidated one for all of the -> "classic" laserjets, -> > except the IIIsi/4Si (they still print that, consolidated into -> one). I work -> > HP printers all the time and much of the info is burned into -> my NVRAM on top -> > of my shoulders, although sometimes the system clock is off a -> little and it -> > takes a few minutes to extract the info (grin) -> > -> > The IID and IIID printers are big but run cheaply and easily. -> > Here's what HP shows for the still avilable service manual (includes -> > shipping): -> > -> > p/n 33459-90906...$83.00...33447A/33459A LaserJet IID/IIID -> Combined Service -> > Manual -> > -> > Since I'm an HP ASP I can get a discount and could get it for -> you for $75 -> > rather than $83, even have it shipped from HP direct to you -> (or anyone else -> > in the US)-agian that is for the printed/bound manual and -> shipping. There is -> > no electronic version in existance that I know of and I too -> would love to -> > have it if there was/were. -> > -> > -> -----Original Message----- -> > -> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> > -> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of -> Richard Erlacher -> > -> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:51 AM -> > -> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -> > -> Subject: ancient laserjets -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> I've always wanted a 2-sided-capable laser printer, preferably a -> > -> Laserjet IIId -> > -> or 4D, but, yesterday I ran onto a pretty thoroughly equipped -> > -> LaserJet IID and -> > -> couldn't resist. I find, however, that HP has no longer got the -> > -> electronic -> > -> versions of its user's manual, technical reference, or service -> > -> manual on its web -> > -> site. -> > -> -> > -> Doesn anybody have a pointer to these documents on the 'net? -> > -> -> > -> thanx, -> > -> -> > -> Dick -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> > -> ->

I usually use Rubber Renu on the pickup rollers. works great. At 09:14 PM 8/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >You may find it convenient that a common household spot-remover, targeted at >carpets, called "Spot Shot" seems to do a really fine job on those aged

>follers, cams, and belts that are involved in paper transport and

>pick up lots of dust and eventually get too slippery to do their job. Just >spray a bit of it on a relatively low-lint cloth or paper-based applicator of >some sort, and you'll find it works very well, and after only one

Generally either Printerworks or fixmyownprinter (something like that) has all the info you need plus the parts etc. I even have a pretty good stash of parts from some of the service depot auctions I have attended. I do tend to packrat manuals too, so ask me and I will look, but mostly its the user manuals. I have a BUNCH of brand new memory expansion boards for a VARIETY of different old laser printers (nothing very new). Brother, Olivetti, etc. plus HP II, IId, etc. As soon as I get them organized they are going on eBay. If you have an old printer you want a memory expansion board for ask me NOW, as in many cases I have ONE only of certain odd printers. $10 and shipping for a bare board (put your own old DRAM chips in it).

Upon the date 04:12 PM 8/15/01 -0700, Mike Ford said something like: I have an Epson Action Laser II which needs a good photoconductor unit assembly. I see from the online manuals the part number is S051005. Would you have something like that Mike? Also, have you found or know of the correct URL for the "fixmyownprinter" site you suggested above? Printerworks just has Canon-engined stuff and was no help.