Usually. It depends on where you find them. XT's go for around $15 - cinder blocks go for about $1-$5. It depends on what you want. The ones I got were pick-and-choose from a demolition site. I had to chip off some chunks of cement and such, but I think it was worth it. ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1> -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) &lt;cisin(a)xenosoft.com&gt; To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers &lt;classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu&gt; Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Space, the next frontier