<Absolutely true. I do hope that the "classiccmp" mailing list doesn't <go in the direction that Sam suggests, i.e. limiting discussion to <computers considered "collectible" in the popular press. Yes there are many machines that are quite interesting but aren't sexy by the LA times standard. I will not argue that altair, Imsai, Apple, tandy and IBM to name a few weren't povital. I may add that most of those names do not attract my attention as I know some of the backroads and alleys where I did application engineering and design work. Maybe that's why I have an intel Intellect MDS 8080 development system that is circa 1976 manufacture and of vastly superior construction than the altair. <That reminds me, Allison, I've got a couple of Motorola 6800 Exorcisor <boards that I promised to try to sneak in through US Customs for you... When they arrive I will be thankful. Allison