Allison wrote: Came up with that one night thinking about DEC's UDA-50, HSC50 and clustering. DEC always had stuff that was easy for the end user. Not always for the programmer (TKB taskbuilder comes to mind...) TKB had more options than EMACS had special keystrokes. I never did get along much with RSX as more than a user. Coding under RT11 was great and RSTS/E Basic Plus was slick. Multiuser Basic on RT11 was slick. I had 4 terminals off a PDT11/150 supplying different functions... Program input on one, console on another, monitor of memory on a third, serial printer on another. In 60kb of memory. There's a PDT11/150 selling on Ebay now. I thought about it but the storage was too limiting. Rumor has it some hacker at DEC took the signals off the bus and was working on a hard disk that would look like an RK or something like an RL. Would've been nice. Didn't need the memory management if I had faster disks to play with stuff like sysgen. I see echos of DEC ideas everywhere. Seems interesting that the SATA Drives are kind of similar to RA8x's, right down to the Red cable. SATA, Serial SCSI... Fiber Channel attach drives... seems like '85 to me. Only took 15 years for the industry to catch up. I saw IBM's Sysplex as an attempt to do similar stuff. Most new clusters can't come close to the single system image shared system disks DEC did in '85. Upgrade one disk image and you get all the With some SATA hot swap backplanes and some drive sleds -- it's not too bad a NAS device for a little bit of money... But still not dual-attached and clustered. Once you get into stuff like SAFE-T dual attach SCSI (IIRC the acronym) or the SATA version you're talking money. Hell. I want a Decmate box just for WPS... I've got WPS-80... but I'd love gold-key word processing on Windows... One time I tried getting SmallEDT up on CP/M 80...to give me EDT on CP/M. After hacking it up to get the number of characters in identifier labels down to what my compiler would handle I got something bigger than the TPA. Not being a C coder... I gave up for a while. I'd like to try to do it again. No mouse needed. Quick Response. I was once looking to map something like it out of WordStar or vi. The wife was amazed how easy WPS was to learn for an untrained novice at the keyboard. Wordstar was hell and WordPerfect required all the special keyboard overlays... Bill

On 14/11/2005, at 9:13 AM, Allison wrote: There's now a windows client which I use frequently - like several times a week. It's easier than finding a VMS system to log into. vi? Wordstar? Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies at kerberos.davies.net.au Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the Australia | air, the sky would be painted green"