Ian, I don't like sniping but I understand why it's done. Good info, I'm keeping a permanent copy of it. Joe At 01:28 PM 1/25/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello Pat, > > If you read these links, it gives other "perspectives" on >the issue of sniping. I guess you don't like sniping, because >you would like to get the best price you could for your items. >This we do respect. > > >http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/myths.html > >http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/ > >http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/supersniper/ > > > But the ones who complain that they didn't win an item because >someone sniped them, we have no respect for what so ever. No one >ever lost an item because someone out bid them. They lost the item >because they didn't bid the high bid utilizing the "proxy" bidding >system. Period. These are people that want to blame others for their >own failures which they themselves brought about. They seem to act >like the world owes them something, when in reality, their failure >is brought on because they are too cheap and selfish. They want what >other people have, but are unwilling to give much of themselves to >get it. > > A note to all. You'll win whatever item you bid on, if you put >in the high bid while the auction is running, regardless of when >that bid is placed. > > > As for the ones that complain about prices of goods being >sold on eBay as being so high, these people have been deemed >unsuitable for employment in our organization for being too >ignorant of commerce and economics. It's indicative of serious >flaws in personality, attitude, and intelligence. Generally >things on eBay often sell for a third to an eighth ( and >sometimes even 1/25 ) of what they are actually worth, and >we have hard data to prove that fact. So any that end up out >of work, just know, we'll learn more about what you're really >like by reading the messages you've posted, than we'd ever learn >in an interview. And we do research prospective applicants >in this manner. Thanks Google. > > > > > > >Pat Barron wrote: >> >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote: >> > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. >> > >> > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have >> > that option as a seller on Yahoo. >> >> I'm sorry that put you off; I've been thinking about toning down or >> eliminating that section, but I haven't done anything about it yet because >> this is a really sore point with me - it's particularly aimed at people >> who run "outbid-bots", that track auctions and place bids in (literally) >> the final 15 or 30 seconds of the auction, to ensure that the previous >> high bidder has no chance to rebid. >> >> In a "real" auction, the auction generally continues until activity >> ceases; if that's doable on Yahoo! Auctions (like the old Onsale.com >> system, in which a bid in the last 5 minutes of an auction automatically >> extended it), then that might be a better option for me. Though I haven't >> listed anything there for a long time, because I've had the impression >> that very few people use Yahoo! Auctions (as opposed to eBay).... >> >> Thanks, >> --Pat. >