16 Jan
2003
16 Jan
'03
3:24 a.m.
Interesting problem. I remember when I was fixing IBM PC's back in the mists of time
we opened up an old 5MB Seagate drive and managed to get it spinning - with our fingers!
It continued working quite reliably thereafter for quite some time, IIRC.
However, there was another drive we tried that one, but it turned out it had suffered the
worst drive crash in history - the RW head was literally *buried* in the disk, as if
someone had taken a hammer to it. But it was a completely sealed unit beforehand.
If you're desperate, you may try prying it open and twigging the platters. But it may
well be more than just the stickies - my experience of late has been that drives are much
better protected from that occurrance.
Best of luck with that!
Dennis
16 Jan
16 Jan
4:32 p.m.
New subject: Head Crashes (was: OT: Maxtor drive goes under)
The most interesting drive crash I've seen is on an IBM 3380 HDA.
The platter has deep scratches, and the heads that served the
surfaces that had the crash are litterally vaporized! The tiny wires
that went from the head-arms to the heads are left dangling...but the
heads are vapor!
-Bob
Interesting problem. I remember when I was fixing IBM
PC's back in
the mists of time we opened up an old 5MB Seagate drive and managed
to get it spinning - with our fingers! It continued working quite
reliably thereafter for quite some time, IIRC.
However, there was another drive we tried that one, but it turned
out it had suffered the worst drive crash in history - the RW head
was literally *buried* in the disk, as if someone had taken a hammer
to it. But it was a completely sealed unit beforehand.
If you're desperate, you may try prying it open and twigging the
platters. But it may well be more than just the stickies - my
experience of late has been that drives are much better protected
from that occurrance.
Best of luck with that!
Dennis
bbrown(a)harper.cc.il.us #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ## ## ## Systems Administrator
Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace
4:49 p.m.
New subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
There were software products, often with required peripherals (satellite, FM
broadcast, leased line, etc.), that allowed an Apple ][ or TRS-80 or IBM PC, etc. to
access stock or commodity ticker feeds in a real-time manner and monitor trades for price,
volume and other limits. If activity was outside specified range the user would receive an
alert like a screen/printer message or an audible beep or both.
Some products were Radio Data Retriever, Intra-Day Analyst, PC Quote, etc.
I am looking for documentation, news articles, manuals, reviews, ads, user guides,
brochures, etc. describing such products. Not limited to micros either. There was a MERLIN
stock market database and timesharing service with such abilities on Burroughs mainframes
plus other systems on proprietary terminal networks (Quotron, Bloomberg, Instinet, etc.)
that may have such abilities too. Even brokergae firms must have had software with such
abilities inhouse on mainframes and other systems.
If you can point me to any docs reflecting state-of-the-art around mid '83 and
earlier please let me know via jimkeo(a)multi-platforms.com.
Thanks! - Jim
Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc.
"It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"
5:20 p.m.
New subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jim Keohane wrote:
There were software products, often with required
peripherals
(satellite, FM broadcast, leased line, etc.), that allowed an Apple ][
or TRS-80 or IBM PC, etc. to access stock or commodity ticker feeds in a
real-time manner and monitor trades for price, volume and other limits.
If activity was outside specified range the user would receive an alert
like a screen/printer message or an audible beep or both.
Some products were Radio Data Retriever, Intra-Day Analyst, PC
Quote, etc.
Indeed, I just picked up such a unit (radio receiver) the other day. It's
a cool little pocket calculator-sized device with a telescoping antenna.
When the service was active, you would punch in the stock symbol and it
would retrieve the price for you. You could also program in your
portfolio and it would presumably keep track of everything for you.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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17 Jan
2:58 p.m.
New subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
Sellam Ismail,
I think the lawyer I'm doing research for would be interested in it. I
know there were products with names like Pocket Quote and Quotrek.
If you can tell me what device it is, what documentation (user guide,
invoice, etc.) it came with and, most importantly, can it be dated? Is there
a date on the paperwork? A serial number? Anything? I believe the older the
better. If it's early 80's or so, great. If later might still be worthwhile.
Also, how do you do business? PayPal? Credit card? What would it cost
including shipment to either NY or chicago?
Talk to ya later. - Jim
Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc.
"It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 23:21
Subject: Re: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jim Keohane wrote:
Festival
There were software products, often with
required peripherals
(satellite, FM broadcast, leased line, etc.), that allowed an Apple ][
or TRS-80 or IBM PC, etc. to access stock or commodity ticker feeds in a
real-time manner and monitor trades for price, volume and other limits.
If activity was outside specified range the user would receive an alert
like a screen/printer message or an audible beep or both.
Some products were Radio Data Retriever, Intra-Day Analyst, PC
Quote, etc.
Indeed, I just picked up such a unit (radio receiver) the other day. It's
a cool little pocket calculator-sized device with a telescoping antenna.
When the service was active, you would punch in the stock symbol and it
would retrieve the price for you. You could also program in your
portfolio and it would presumably keep track of everything for you.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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http://www.vintage.org
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www.VintageTech.com *
5:33 p.m.
New subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
My apologoies. I meant to send email to Sellam directly and not pester
the entire list. - Jim
Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc.
"It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"
7:06 p.m.
New subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
How serendipitous! I just finished whipping together a stock ticker application for my
company to demo at CES. I had a short lead time and was putting it together in VB, so my
options were limited. I had some nice DirectX stock ticker code that absolutely throttled
the machine, making simultaneous data capture of the stock info impossible. As I was
flipping through an old copy of Commodore Gazzette magazine before going to sleep ( :), I
found a nice algorithm to do a stock ticker in basic by continuously LEFT$ and MID$
shifting through a string, character by character. Worked like a charm! Thanks,
"Outdated" computer platform magazines!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Keohane
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org ; cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: Stock Ticker software early 80's and before
There were software products, often with required peripherals (satellite, FM
broadcast, leased line, etc.), that allowed an Apple ][ or TRS-80 or IBM PC, etc. to
access stock or commodity ticker feeds in a real-time manner and monitor trades for price,
volume and other limits. If activity was outside specified range the user would receive an
alert like a screen/printer message or an audible beep or both.
Some products were Radio Data Retriever, Intra-Day Analyst, PC Quote, etc.
I am looking for documentation, news articles, manuals, reviews, ads, user guides,
brochures, etc. describing such products. Not limited to micros either. There was a MERLIN
stock market database and timesharing service with such abilities on Burroughs mainframes
plus other systems on proprietary terminal networks (Quotron, Bloomberg, Instinet, etc.)
that may have such abilities too. Even brokergae firms must have had software with such
abilities inhouse on mainframes and other systems.
If you can point me to any docs reflecting state-of-the-art around mid '83 and
earlier please let me know via jimkeo(a)multi-platforms.com.
Thanks! - Jim
Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc.
"It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"
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