I will send these out free for cost of shipping. These two really should go to people who *own* the machines covered. VAX11/780 Hardware Handbook 1978(!) PDP11/45 processor handbook 1971(!) IBM DOS Technical Reference (the 3 ring binder + box) Greenleaf Software Comm Library (3 ring binder + box) I don't think any of these will be a problem mailing to U.S. P.S. I am still waiting on confirmations for the two Livingston PM-11's Diane -- - db at FreeBSD.org db at db.net http://www.db.net/~db