Well, this friend and I worked at NASA JSC. We were shuttle flight controllers in the early STS days, including STS-1. (You should see my collection of stuff from the first shuttle flight!) In our off hours, we played with the 9845, writing games: lunar landing simulator (which I did rewrite into C++ and still play), submarine search and destroy (which I rewrote and was published by Broderbund Software as "Search and Destroy", car race, solitaire, blackjack, Star Trek, GREAT baseball and 1-on-1 basketball games, and several others. FAR better than anything on the market in the early 80s. (Of course, that's the advantage of having a $70,000 machine at your disposal!) Never sold them. I left NASA in '82 (to come to Boeing) and interviewed an HP rep from Corvallis, showed her all the great stuff. Her response: "Outstanding! How about coming to work for us and writing aero engineer software for wind tunnel testing and such?" No thanks. Actually, I do have an *original* IBM PC. March 82, 48k motherboard (not the later 64k), SINGLE side 160K floppy, Amdek color monitor. And some games I wrote for that. I'm heartbroken that I threw out my original DOS 1.0 disks/book back in about '84, when DOS 2.1 came out. (I do still have all the 2.1 disks & books.) So, if anyone knows where I could beg, borrow, or steal a DOS 1.0... ;-} BTW, my wife's uncle still has his original IBM PC Jr, complete with chicklet keyboard. Gonna half to try to scam him out of that. No idea what's going on there. Relaying bumps usually happen when the sender tries going through the wrong SMTP server. Don't know why the other would work. Good question.... Thanks. RT