19 Mar
1999
19 Mar
'99
1:43 a.m.
In einer eMail vom 18.03.99 19:40:17, schreiben Sie:
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Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
ePay seems to be a seller's market. There's nothing inherently wrong with
that, but nevertheless I think it sucks. Of course, my opinion is very
biased, since I'm generally on the buying end of the deal.
So someone needs to create another web site that is the opposite
of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
site yaBe.com ....
-Lawrence (yes I want an Exidy, who doesn't?) LeMay
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I think this is a VERY, VERY GOOD idea !
John G. Zabolitzky
4:13 a.m.
eBay has a "wanted" site.
See http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBoard&name=wanted
or go to http://pages.ebay.com/aw/ps.html and select Wanted Page
at the bottom.
Dave
Jgzabol(a)aol.com wrote:
In einer eMail vom 18.03.99 19:40:17, schreiben Sie:
<<
Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
ePay seems to be a seller's market. There's nothing inherently wrong with
that, but nevertheless I think it sucks. Of course, my opinion is very
biased, since I'm generally on the buying end of the deal.
So someone needs to create another web site that is the opposite
of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
site yaBe.com ....
-Lawrence (yes I want an Exidy, who doesn't?) LeMay
>
I think this is a VERY, VERY GOOD idea !
John G. Zabolitzky 
6:59 a.m.
On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 Jgzabol(a)aol.com wrote:
So someone needs to create another web site that is
the opposite
of what eBay provides. A site where you can advertise that you're
looking for an Exidy Sorcerer computer, and woould be willing to
pay about $15 plus $10 shipping. I suggest you call this new
site yaBe.com ....
-Lawrence (yes I want an Exidy, who doesn't?) LeMay
It is a good idea but let me be the naysayer for a moment. Say someone
does go through the trouble to create such a cool site. A bunch of guys
sick of the ebay atrocity start posting want ads for stuff they want.
And they wait. And wait. And wait. And...nothing ever comes of it.
People who are selling this stuff come to the page, see someone wanting an
Exidy Sorcerer for $15 and go "HAH! I can get 20 times that on ebay!"
Then they go to ebay and get 20 times that.
Now I would think that many on this list are more interested in trading
computers in a sane manner with other like-minded hobbyists, and on the
strength of that alone will this work.
Now let's say that a trading board is added, where people can post stuff
they have for sale or trade there. Let's say some really cool things are
offered for sane prices, like S-100 systems and cards, interesting
micro's from the 80s, PDP-8 hardware and software, etc. Good stuff. All
being offered at reasonable prices because its offered by hobbyists
intended for hobbyists.
Now, along comes some jerk with a lot of money, he starts buying up
everything that gets posted, and then even worse, a couple weeks later
this stuff starts showing up on ebay and getting sold for the same old
ridiculous prices!
Now, what I'm trying to say is, while this sounds like a very cool idea,
it has the potential to get destroyed by the very thing we're trying to
avoid. A system needs to be designed to insure that there is a level of
integrity maintained, otherwise you just have another ebay, and one ebay
is bad enough.
I don't have any ideas on this (yet) but I think it should be well thought
out before anyone even bothers to set up the site.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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I think this is a VERY, VERY GOOD idea ! 
8:06 a.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
Now, what I'm trying to say is, while this sounds
like a very cool idea,
it has the potential to get destroyed by the very thing we're trying to
avoid. A system needs to be designed to insure that there is a level of
integrity maintained, otherwise you just have another ebay, and one ebay
is bad enough.
On a small scale, it would be a nice resource for the members of this
list to have a simple, searchable registry of who's looking for what.
You don't even have to disclose what you're willing to pay (I think it'd
be much more anti-ebay if there weren't any dollar signs on it at all),
but just that you would like anyone who has one of these systems
available to contact you. This would simply be a contact facilitator,
and the independent parties could then negotiate prices, etc.
Worst case would be that the professional auction sellers would find out
and start flooding the registrants with URLs of their eBay auctions. But
if it's a "registered user" service, it would be simple enough to
implement a "no-eBay" policy and boot people for doing that.
It would make it *much* easier to negotiate trades too. If party "A"
contacts party "B" about the Co-Co they've been looking for, party
"B"
can look up party "A's" want list and come up with an appropriate trade
offer.
I don't have much time at all, but have a lot of experience with web
programming and would definitely donate whatever time and energy I could
to something like this, if someone wanted to actually organise a
project...
Aaron
10:37 a.m.
On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Aaron Christopher Finney wrote:
It would make it *much* easier to negotiate trades
too. If party "A"
contacts party "B" about the Co-Co they've been looking for, party
"B"
can look up party "A's" want list and come up with an appropriate trade
offer.
I don't have much time at all, but have a lot of experience with web
programming and would definitely donate whatever time and energy I could
to something like this, if someone wanted to actually organise a
project...
This is exactly the type of trading board that I've been meaning to add
to the VCF web site for aeons now. If you can provide the programming
I'll certainly host it. Its definitely a needed service.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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8:06 a.m.
John wrote:
> Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
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> ePay seems to be a seller's market. There's nothing inherently wrong with
> that, but nevertheless I think it sucks. Of course, my opinion is very
> biased, since I'm generally on the buying end of the deal.
Careful with that editing! I doubt that Ward wants to take the blame for
my flames!
Eric
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