31 Jan
1999
31 Jan
'99
12:08 p.m.
Also, You mentioned DirctCD. Most normal CD players
can't read discs
written using packet-writing technology --
Bad form, replying to your own post, but I realized I should clarify this.
Other CD /drives/ can read discs written using packet-writing, once they've
been finalized, but packet-writing uses a different filesystem layout, so
the operating system won't recognize them. Several CDR vendors, including
Adaptec, provide drivers along with their packet-writing software, but
typically only for Win95, Win98, NT, and sometimes Macintosh OS's. You
won't be able to use such a disc from 16-bit DOS, Unix (probably), and other
platforms.
RSTS, I would think, is right out.
Paul Kearns
paulk(a)microsoft.com
1 Feb
1 Feb
12:59 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
With the Euro being accepted as the new official currency
of a combined European nation what will happen to all of
those people wuth old computers who want to use the
character but cannot. There are a number of fonts that have
appeared on the Amiga and Windows PCs but I have to find
any with the Euro character for the Atari ST, or any other
old computer. Does anyone know of any efforts to make these
characters available to operating systems such as CP/M?
--
Gareth Knight
Amiga Interactive Guide- http://welcome.to/aig
"Shine on your star"
2:33 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
With the Euro being accepted as the new official
currency
of a combined European nation what will happen to all of
those people wuth old computers who want to use the
character but cannot. There are a number of fonts that have
appeared on the Amiga and Windows PCs but I have to find
any with the Euro character for the Atari ST, or any other
old computer. Does anyone know of any efforts to make these
characters available to operating systems such as CP/M?
THere is also a solution for the Atari, and AFAIK a ASCII
solution: on the european charsets (7-Bit) either the #
sign (already Pound on english keyboards) or the $ sign
(already used as 'curency' sign on some charsets - displayed
as a circle with 4 spikes) is repleaced by the (stupid) E.
Or just write down the official 3 letter abrevation EUR like
used by every kind of money trading system and stock exchange.
BTW: this E symbol is one of the 4 most stupid ideas around
the euro - a typical pice of shit like most ideas developed
by politicians. Don't get me wrong, the Euro is a good idea,
but they tried to make it as stupid as possible.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
2:05 a.m.
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3:44 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
::THere is also a solution for the Atari, and AFAIK a
ASCII
::solution: on the european charsets (7-Bit) either the #
::sign (already Pound on english keyboards) or the $ sign
::(already used as 'curency' sign on some charsets - displayed
::as a circle with 4 spikes) is repleaced by the (stupid) E.
What *does* the Euro symbol look like, anyway?
Like an E, but no, more like a genic mutated C, crossbreeded
with a debenerated = ... C^H= .... just nonsense - for what
reason we need such a stupid symbol ?
Bloody Idiots.
Ignorant Australian-American :-),
As ignorant as the european politicans ?
(SCNR, no personal instult intended)
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
4:07 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
Hans Franke wrote:
Like an E, but no, more like a genic mutated C,
crossbreeded
with a debenerated = ... C^H= .... just nonsense - for what
reason we need such a stupid symbol ?
Uh-oh, Hans...am I detecting hostility toward the Euro? Why, if it helps
to consolidate power in the hands of your government, which can
subesequently turn it over to you in the form of taxes? Don't you _want_
a global english-speaking empire ;)
3 Feb
3 Feb
12:29 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
> Like an E, but no, more like a genic mutated C,
crossbreeded
> with a debenerated = ... C^H= .... just nonsense - for what
> reason we need such a stupid symbol ?
Uh-oh, Hans...am I detecting hostility toward the
Euro?
No, just about some stuipd ideas around like
a) the name - calling it Euro and cent is a coward like solution
to avoide any problems with choosing a real name.
b) the dual labeling in stores for THREE years - nonsense
c) the tree year period of having a new curency but not issuing
notes or coins - three years of double book keeping, enormus
software costs and tree years of possible fraud (They offered
the bad guys a lot of time to develop strategies and 'earn'
their money).
d) The stupid symbol.
Why, if it helps
to consolidate power in the hands of your government, which can
subesequently turn it over to you in the form of taxes? Don't you _want_
a global english-speaking empire ;)
Of course .... what could be better than that (maybe with an
exception for a chineese speaking world) - no, serious, I
live very happy within some 20 million Bavarian speaking
people (and the other ca. 100 M German speaking that I can
at least understand :) - so for what I need In'glisch ?
TBOTA: the country specific variants of the 7-Bit ASCII have
been some trouble in the past, maybe it wasn't that visible
for the US boys (Did you know that there is also a kind of
cyrillic (russian) ASCII, where they not only replaced a few
symbols, but rather the whole alpha chars (and some additional,
since they have more letters). Even when using latin type ASCII
(7 Bit) there have been a lot of efforts to create multi language
editors for CP/M ... In the beginning even a single language
version of Wordstar was not possible other than US/GB english,
since the code positions where the 'special' letters where assigned
have been assumed to be non letters "@$&{[]}\|".
Gruss
H.
--
Der Kopf ist auch nur ein Auswuchs wie der kleine Zeh.
H.Achternbusch
7 Feb
7 Feb
7:22 a.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:30:10PM +0000, Hans Franke wrote:
(Did you know that there is also a kind of
cyrillic (russian) ASCII, where they not only replaced a few
symbols, but rather the whole alpha chars (and some additional,
since they have more letters).
If any of you are going to read Russian and/or deal with Soviet/Russian
computers, <URL:http://czyborra.com/charsets/cyrillic.html> should be on
your reading list.
--
Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru
11:55 p.m.
New subject: Euro on old computers
> (Did you know that there is also a kind of
> cyrillic (russian) ASCII, where they not only replaced a few
> symbols, but rather the whole alpha chars (and some additional,
> since they have more letters).
If any of you are going to read Russian and/or deal
with Soviet/Russian
computers, <URL:http://czyborra.com/charsets/cyrillic.html> should be on
your reading list.
What a great source. Thank you. I always serched for such
a comparsion of cyrillic 'ASCII' charsets (one schould also
go one level above to http://czyborra.com/charsets/ ).
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
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