In a message dated 5/18/2000 8:15:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: Trucks, Trailers and outbuildings are always around scrapyards. They often get filled with "low value" scrap items "junk" that the yard owner doesn't want to deal with when they come in, like terminals and printers. Some times those piles sit for years. Investigate all Shipping Containers. Sometimes they are used for storage, but most of the time they are being filled with outgoing scrap on it's way to China. If you can be there with your screwdrivers when it is being loaded sometimes you can find neat stuff. You don't want to get in the way of the loading operation, but if you have developed a relationship with the scrapper you can often cull as it is being loaded. Adopt your local scrapper. Offer twice the scrap value or more, don't get in the way and you will be, more than likely, welcome. Paxton PS. Most of the scrap going into containers brings 5 to 10 cents per pound to the dealer loading it.