19 Apr
2007
19 Apr
'07
2:56 p.m.
Greetings Geeks & Geekettes;
I'm looking for a small pile of Commodore gear for a project a friend of
mine and I are putting together for this year's Chicago Commodore Expo
(which means a deadline of August or so).
I'm after:
Commodore 64s (any case style)
Commodore 128s (pref. not the beefy DCRs to save on shipping)
Disk drives (any type)
Power bricks for the above (drives & machines)
Associated cabling
Game carts (see below)
All of the above will be treated with respect and neither dismantled
(unless it was already broken, although I'd very much prefer working gear)
nor sold on, and will be part of a unique project which you'll all be
detailed on when the time looms near (Ooooo, hush, hush, exciting isn't
it?).
Except the game carts - which I'm cannabalising for their connectors,
which seem to be darned expensive on their own - so if you have broken
carts, even better!
I'd also like to find a monitor, as my own one is back in New Zealand and
out of reach right now, and for the life of me I can't seem to find either
my DIN->composite cables nor any of the blasted RF boxes that seem to
accumulate in every corner _until_ you're looking for one.
I'm looking for people who are willing to let this go for shipping only
(I'm not exactly made of money, but is anyone?) on the guarantee that
there will be no ignominious end to the equipment and the knowledge that
it will be used for a very cool multi-CPU project.
I'm based in the US (50441), by the way, and I'll probably keep my
shipping costs down by only taking up offers by US based people, but
please let me know.
Thank you all!
JP Hindin
19 Apr
19 Apr
4:20 p.m.
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at kiwigeek.com> wrote:
Except the game carts - which I'm cannabalising
for their connectors,
which seem to be darned expensive on their own - so if you have broken
carts, even better!
Ummm, aren't those just .1" spaced contact two-sided card-edges? My
memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember taking prototype boards
with 100 "tongues" per side (what _is_ the proper word?) and using a
hacksaw to cut off the required amount and shape (22 per side?) to fit
the expansion port shape. It would also be a lot easier to solder
to....
(The proto boards may have been custom to the place I was working for...)
Joe.
5:07 p.m.
New subject: Looking for: Any Commodore gear (not reselling or anything nefarious)
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at
kiwigeek.com> wrote:
Ugh, I seemed to be doped up this morning. I was meaning the connectors
for the EXPANSION port, not game cartridges which, as you say, have
tongues and not slot headers.
The appropriate broken carts I would be looking for would be REUs and
similar for these headers.
My apologies for the confusion!
JP
Except the game carts - which I'm
cannabalising for their connectors,
which seem to be darned expensive on their own - so if you have broken
carts, even better!
Ummm, aren't those just .1" spaced contact two-sided card-edges? My
memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember taking prototype boards
with 100 "tongues" per side (what _is_ the proper word?) and using a
hacksaw to cut off the required amount and shape (22 per side?) to fit
the expansion port shape. It would also be a lot easier to solder
to....
(The proto boards may have been custom to the place I was working for...)
6:11 p.m.
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at kiwigeek.com> wrote:
Ummm, either one or both of us are still confused :-) The C= has two
ports that can be called "expansion" ports: The User port, a 24
connector card edge of the motherboard, and the 44-pin expansion port,
a slot connector soldered onto the motherboard. The former has 17
pins controlled by one (or both?) of the 6522's (the rest is +5, GND,
etc.) and I think the spacing is .156". Jameco seems to still stock
those.
The expansion port has pretty much all the 6502 signals available, and
is where anything needing the address/data bus would be plugged in -
including game carts, REU, IEEE488, CP/M etc. If you're looking to
add any "real" hardware, that's what you want; your hardware just
needs to have the card edge with the "fingers" (thanks Dave) at .1".
(Oh, and the PCB needs be the right fatness, but I think that's all
standard, no?)
If you are just looking for communicating with the C64/C128, the User
port will do just fine, either by parallel or serial protocol. Modems
and printers used to hang off here, but I think finding old ones to
rip the connector off would be difficult. My search on Jameco showed
P/N 422991, which looks right.
Joe.
Ummm,
aren't those just .1" spaced contact two-sided card-edges? My
memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember taking prototype boards
with 100 "tongues" per side (what _is_ the proper word?) and using a
hacksaw to cut off the required amount and shape (22 per side?) to fit
the expansion port shape. It would also be a lot easier to solder
to....
Ugh, I seemed to be doped up this morning. I was meaning the connectors
for the EXPANSION port, not game cartridges which, as you say, have
tongues and not slot headers.
The appropriate broken carts I would be looking for would be REUs and
similar for these headers.
9:22 p.m.
New subject: Looking for: Any Commodore gear (not reselling or anything nefarious)
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joachim Thiemann wrote:
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at
kiwigeek.com> wrote:
Ummm, either one or both of us are still confused :-) The C= has two
ports that can be called "expansion" ports: The User port, a 24
connector card edge of the motherboard, and the 44-pin expansion port,
a slot connector soldered onto the motherboard. The former has 17
pins controlled by one (or both?) of the 6522's (the rest is +5, GND,
etc.) and I think the spacing is .156". Jameco seems to still stock
those.
I'm just not doing well today, am I?
The female connectors on devices plugged into the USER port is what I am
after - when I looked these up late last year (I believe in my Mouser
catalogue, but given how well I'm doing today, I just can't be sure any
blasted more) they were quite expensive, my memory says something like $12
a connector. Hence why I was willing to cannabalise broken equipment
rather than cough up for these - as I need about twenty connectors!
I apologise for the confusion, twice over. I don't exactly sound like
someone you want to be sending all your stored Commodore pieces to now, do
I? Honest, it's just been a bad day!
JP Hindin
Ummm,
aren't those just .1" spaced contact two-sided card-edges? My
memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember taking prototype boards
with 100 "tongues" per side (what _is_ the proper word?) and using a
hacksaw to cut off the required amount and shape (22 per side?) to fit
the expansion port shape. It would also be a lot easier to solder
to....
Ugh, I seemed to be doped up this morning. I was meaning the connectors
for the EXPANSION port, not game cartridges which, as you say, have
tongues and not slot headers.
The appropriate broken carts I would be looking for would be REUs and
similar for these headers. 
9:41 p.m.
On 4/19/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at kiwigeek.com> wrote:
I'm just not doing well today, am I?
Perhaps not... but perhaps you will do better.
The female connectors on devices plugged into the USER
port is what I am
after - when I looked these up late last year (I believe in my Mouser
catalogue...... my memory says something like $12
a connector.
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&am…
CINCH CONNECTORS 50-24A-30
$2.29 each q.25 price
-ethan
11:23 p.m.
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at kiwigeek.com> wrote:
I'm just not doing well today, am I?
Naah, don't worry - when you mentioned game cartriges and later thr
REU, my mind just got stuck on that you wanted to use the actual
"expansion port" rather than the "user port".
I apologise for the confusion, twice over. I don't
exactly sound like
someone you want to be sending all your stored Commodore pieces to now, do
I? Honest, it's just been a bad day!
Didn't you know that knowing the exact minutae of C= terminology is
_vital_ before starting such a project? The C= kabal demands that one
scores at least 25% on the Jim Brain trivia challange before hacking
up C= hardware!
(...I think I can get abut 10% of those... I need to study more!...)
Joe.
20 Apr
20 Apr
12:15 a.m.
New subject: Looking for: Any Commodore gear (not reselling or anything nefarious)
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joachim Thiemann wrote:
On 19/04/07, JP Hindin <jplist2007 at
kiwigeek.com> wrote:
Thankfully I'm only writing the software :)
I have a partner in crime who is doing the hardware hacking, including
prototyping up the bits that are connecting the 20 or so C64s/C128s. He's
the one that knows the typos and errors in the Commodore Programmers
Reference Guide on a page-by-page, line-by-line basis ;)
JP
I'm just not doing well today, am I?
Naah, don't worry - when you mentioned game cartriges and later thr
REU, my mind just got stuck on that you wanted to use the actual
"expansion port" rather than the "user port".
I apologise for the confusion, twice over. I
don't exactly sound like
someone you want to be sending all your stored Commodore pieces to now, do
I? Honest, it's just been a bad day!
Didn't you know that knowing the exact minutae of C= terminology is
_vital_ before starting such a project? The C= kabal demands that one
scores at least 25% on the Jim Brain trivia challange before hacking
up C= hardware!
(...I think I can get abut 10% of those... I need to study more!...) 
19 Apr
19 Apr
7:52 p.m.
New subject: Looking for: Any Commodore gear (not reselling or anything nefarious)
At 11:07 AM -0500 4/19/07, JP Hindin wrote:
Ugh, I seemed to be doped up this morning. I was
meaning the connectors
for the EXPANSION port, not game cartridges which, as you say, have
tongues and not slot headers.
The appropriate broken carts I would be looking for would be REUs and
similar for these headers.
As I recall these aren't that expensive from Digi-Key, I bought 3 of
them last September.
Zane
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5:56 p.m.
On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Joachim Thiemann wrote:
Ummm, aren't those just .1" spaced contact
two-sided card-edges? My
memory may be faulty, but I seem to remember taking prototype boards
with 100 "tongues" per side (what _is_ the proper word?)
"Fingers"
-Dave
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