9 Dec
2006
9 Dec
'06
10:35 a.m.
If you haven't read the previously un-published Chapter 1.5 of Brian
Bagnall's Commodore history, take a look here -
http://www.commodorebook.com/contents/ch001.5%20TIM-KIM.pdf . No doubt
the KIM was a significant and capable system but, IMHO, the real
difference was intent - Chuck Peddle saw the KIM as a way to entice
engineers into trying and buying his processor; Woz saw the Apple I as a
true personal computer, though obviously that had a different meaning in
1976 than it did in 1981 or 2006.
The KIM-1 had a tremendous impact (relatively speaking) because it
provided a working system (or subsystem) with a common and reliable
hardware configuration to 100s/1000s of people. The result was an early
critical mass encouraging third party vendors (hardware and software)
and the development of an enthusiastic user community.
The Apple I never sold in any appreciable volume and may have been most
important as an "enabler", validating Woz - to himself! - as a capable
designer and validating Jobs - to himself! - as a visionary, though it
would seem that Paul Terrell (and certainly Mike Markula) shared that
vision as well. Terrell's financial commitment to Apple allowed Woz to
build something much closer to his view of what he wanted - the Apple
][.
My ][ cents -
Jack
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9 Dec
9 Dec
10:50 a.m.
This is very true. If you hear Woz speak, he talks about how the Apple I was
the stepping stone and the II was what he really wanted to build form the
beginning. In fact, He said that he designed the ][ from scratch in
comparison to the I so he could achieve his goal.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
Web site: http://www.altair32.com/
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On Behalf Of Jack Rubin
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:36 PM
To: Classic Computer List
Subject: KIM-1 and Apple I
If you haven't read the previously un-published Chapter 1.5 of Brian
Bagnall's Commodore history, take a look here -
http://www.commodorebook.com/contents/ch001.5%20TIM-KIM.pdf . No doubt
the KIM was a significant and capable system but, IMHO, the real
difference was intent - Chuck Peddle saw the KIM as a way to entice
engineers into trying and buying his processor; Woz saw the Apple I as a
true personal computer, though obviously that had a different meaning in
1976 than it did in 1981 or 2006.
The KIM-1 had a tremendous impact (relatively speaking) because it
provided a working system (or subsystem) with a common and reliable
hardware configuration to 100s/1000s of people. The result was an early
critical mass encouraging third party vendors (hardware and software)
and the development of an enthusiastic user community.
The Apple I never sold in any appreciable volume and may have been most
important as an "enabler", validating Woz - to himself! - as a capable
designer and validating Jobs - to himself! - as a visionary, though it
would seem that Paul Terrell (and certainly Mike Markula) shared that
vision as well. Terrell's financial commitment to Apple allowed Woz to
build something much closer to his view of what he wanted - the Apple
][.
My ][ cents -
Jack
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