Heh. Does anyone remember Artworx "Strip Poker?" It was in basic too. I discovered one bored afternoon that it was a lot easier to hack the game so with a certain keystroke you could select which images actually loaded than it was to beat the darn thing at poker. -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BeOS Powered! -----------------------------------------------------------------------

Rumor has it that Tony Duell may have mentioned these words: Actually, I don't do it that much anymore... I've found hacking someone else's source like that can be *almost* as time-consuming, so for the small "quick-n-dirty" proggies that I've been known to frequent over the last few years, I've found it quicker just to bag it and write my own... reinventing the wheel doesn't take that darned long if you're just cutting it out of a piece of paper, if you will. ;-) Now, on longer proggies where I can't (or don't) get a handle on all the logic & just need to add one quick little feature, I have been known muck about in other people's source code... whether or not I actually know the language... :-) ==================== I've got a little good news today... it sounds like I'm getting a MicroVAX!!! Dunno what flavor, but it must be a little newer - it's running Ultrix. So... I have a few questions: 1) Is there a webpage/FAQ of different uVAX types with initial specs? I don't know 'zactly what I'm getting yet, but I'd like to get familiar with the uVAX line beforehand, so I don't sound like a complete dummy... ;-) 2) Is there a hobbyist licen[sc]e of older versions of Ultrix in case he can't find me any OS media, or is it the consensus here of "why the #&^@^( do you want to run that Unix crap anyway when VMS is better/more fun/etc.?" 3) Can *all* Vaxen run with a serial terminal (just in case this one doesn't come with a framebuffer / compat. monitor... I have to Lear-Siegler ADM-31's (IIRC - I saved 'em for $5 each and just set them in my garage... they'll need a little cleaning.) I'd hate to get a uVAX sans monitor, and find that it needs one to work... I don't want this box to be a doorstop - I want to use it! :-) Well, I don't want to flood all the VaxHeads with a ton of newbie questions, so the FAQ locations would be really nice & I can leave you alone until I'm smarter in these woods... but with all the bad bummin' talk about all these computers we can't save... I saved a VAX!!! ;-) Thanks & Cheers, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

Well the view is more of the VMS is better among Vax fanatics, but there's a $100 license from SCO for old Unix sources and that get you access to the Unix Preservation Society's archives of Berkeley Unix... or you can run the current version of NetBSD on most Microvax systems. It'll work fine. I'm going to use a serial line from a PC with a vt100 emulator (kermit is the best one for VT100) or just a VT100 VT100 emulation's nice for the screen editor but ADM3A's will even work. Vax consoles (IMHO) should probably be LA120's if you have em. Bill --- bpechter@shell.monmouth.com|pechter@pechter.dyndns.org Three things never anger: First, the one who runs your DEC, The one who does Field Service and the one who signs your check.