Yeah, I dropped the word "later" ("until later PPC's")... caused by over editing what I wrote first, which was something along the lines of "I didn't think they started doing OF until the later model 603e/604's that came out around the time of the first G3s, in the era of motorola clones". And when I diced that down to simplify my statement, I diced a little too much. Sorry about that. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>