At 11:07 PM -0500 8/21/07, Jason T wrote: The price is not insane, ELI is a legitimate DEC reseller who just happens to have an eBay presence. A top of the line VAX can still go for big $$$'s as there are those looking to stay on real hardware, while upgrading their existing hardware. The interesting thing about these is that with the right option you can add Q-Bus slots. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/SOC_Archives/80755.html I'm not sure, but I believe you can still buy these and a few other models from HP. What I find amusing is that these are still worth big bucks, while something like the DS20E is dropping significantly in price. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |