29 Jul
2001
29 Jul
'01
4:36 p.m.
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
29 Jul
29 Jul
4:59 p.m.
--- Lucas J Cashdollar <ljcst18+(a)pitt.edu> wrote:
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Straight-8 - 1964. Needs the printer's ink cleaned off of it and the
capacitors conditioned before I fire it up. Came with a DF-32 (and DS-32)
disk system and a DEC PA-60 (possibly some kind of R-series logic controller
for the printing mechanism - have no docs on it).
IBM 026 card punch - 195?. Not a computer, but a computing device. Has
tubes. Passed the smoke test; needs cleaned, lubed and adjusted. I have
the basic docs that were in the the pedestal. Could use advice on how
to service it.
-ethan
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5:06 p.m.
Presently I guess my older units would be the Commodore 64,128, 128D and IBM
5150 PC - I have traded and sold many of my older units for lack of room and
soon will be offloading more to finance my newest thrill - ham radio. I'll
still keep the oldies around, just not as many or as old.
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-> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 11:37 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: Whats you oldest computer
->
->
-> Hello All,
->
-> I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
-> own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and
-> the oldest
-> one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
->
-> Luke
->
->
->
->
->
5:07 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Lucas J Cashdollar wrote:
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you own.
I've got an original DG Nova, circa 1968, and a Teletype ASR35 which is
probably older.
Both are un-restored but basically complete.
After that, I'm not sure. I think it's somewhere around 1977, with the
TRS-80 (4k, level 1, no keypad... eat your heart out Enrico Tedeschi), or
possibly the H89 or Northstar Advantage.
ok
r.
5:24 p.m.
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
A Burroughs E6000. I think it was released in 1967.
It won't be mine forever, though, as someone here on
the list will one day be picking it up if all goes
well (and they know who they are).
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
8:11 p.m.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 12:36:40AM -0400, Lucas J Cashdollar wrote:
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
A Comptometer (1911 is the last date on the metal patent label, but I don't
know when the unit was actually made) follosed by a Marchant from 1940.
OK, they're not electronic, binary, or programmable, buut they are digital
and they do compute. :)
-- Derek
9:44 p.m.
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
It would seem that 1978 is currently some kind of barrier
I've yet to go below for a system, as a number of systems I have date
from that year, even if they were introduced earlier:
SOL-20, VIM-1,
PET 2001, TRS-80 Model I and Apple II+.
Jeff
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11:19 p.m.
Hmmm well mine is probably a small IBM Manual punchcard machine. This is a
real desktop model. I am not 100% sure from what year it is, but the patent
on it states 1915 or 1919!!
You can see a picture of it at http://www.xs4all.nl/~rimmer/total/ibmpunch.jpg
It still works perfectly. I also have similar machines from Bull, two P80's
from 1940. There is a picture at
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rimmer/cpics/bullp80.jpg
They also have this picture on the
"Bull computer History" page, but its
one of my machines :) (see
http://perso.club-internet.fr/febcm/english/bull_computer_index.htm)
grtz,
Stefan.
10:38 p.m.
That would be my PDP 11/35 with a (working) ASR-33.
I used to have a Comptometer from around the mid fifties, but I did give
that away a year
ago.
Talking about the ASR, anybody intrested in a puncher, a reader or a
printing mechanism
(without printing drum, motor and transmission sprockets)? Would prefer to
swap for Unibus
stuff.
Ed.
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the
oldest one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
30 Jul
30 Jul
2:39 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Lucas J Cashdollar
<ljcst18+(a)pitt.edu> wrote:
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
The oldest would be the KIM-1, 1977.
But I have a rack of parts for a machine called "Arcturus"
which I think is older. I have no idea what it is/was, but
I was told that it was the first computer installed at the
London University Computing Institute. It's built out of
integrated circuits, but nothing more complex than a few
gates per chip, as far as I can tell. I'll have to dig it
out, photograph it and post the info to the list.
--
John Honniball
Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk
University of the West of England
3:33 a.m.
I have a 2114B that I have been dragging around since college...
A cool machine with light bulbs and core!
Check out: http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/index.html
Lucas J Cashdollar wrote:
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
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4:25 a.m.
I'm not sure which is older, my Apple //e or my PDP11/53 turned 11/73.
I have an IBM AT, but that is currently disassembled, and I'm don't plan
on keeping it.
I suppose my Apple is the oldest since it is has the painted case with
white keyboard characters. All 3 of the computers I mentioned were
built for quite awhile, so I could be wrong. I guess the best I can say
is early to mid 80's.
I've never really gone for wanting the oldest with computers. I got
started with oldeer computers because they were cheap. I got a PC and
an XT with monitors and keyboards for $35, and then I got a Unisys 286
for free. I of course started working with the Apple //e at school, so
I wanted one for home. I didn't get one until the late 90s, However. I
wouldn't know what to do with anything like a PDP8. I don't even really
know what to do with my 11 yet.
Anybody know off hand what year the MicroVax 3400 was released?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any
of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+
(1978?) and the
oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
5:33 a.m.
My oldest would probably be my SOL, but it's non-functional at present.
My oldest functioning computer could be my ][+, my Compucolor II, my Boston IV,
or my Tandy Microcomputer Trainer. There aren't many dates on them.
Eric
6:05 a.m.
New subject: Intersil PDP-8 prototyping kit
I saw something a while back on eBay about which I'd like to get more
information or possibly track down. It was a set of boards and (I think) a
prototyping panel from Intersil based on their PDP8-on-a-chip
technology. I don't remember a lot about it, but I think it might even
have had a connection for running the whole thing off a set of
batteries. I'd really like to learn a little more about this and maybe
even snag one.
I know it's not much to go on, but does this ring a bell with anyone?
Thanks!
-- Tony
7:03 a.m.
New subject: Intersil PDP-8 prototyping kit
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Tony Eros wrote:
I saw something a while back on eBay about which
I'd like to get more
information or possibly track down. It was a set of boards and (I
think) a prototyping panel from Intersil based on their PDP8-on-a-chip
technology. I don't remember a lot about it, but I think it might
even have had a connection for running the whole thing off a set of
batteries. I'd really like to learn a little more about this and
maybe even snag one.
It's called the Intercil Intercept Jr. I have one in my collection.
Here is a picture:
http://online.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.InterceptJr.html
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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8:38 a.m.
New subject: Intersil PDP-8 prototyping kit
Ahh, I'll have to keep my eye out for one.
-- Tony
At 12:03 PM 7/30/2001 -0700, you wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Tony Eros wrote:
I saw something a while back on eBay about which
I'd like to get more
information or possibly track down. It was a set of boards and (I
think) a prototyping panel from Intersil based on their PDP8-on-a-chip
technology. I don't remember a lot about it, but I think it might
even have had a connection for running the whole thing off a set of
batteries. I'd really like to learn a little more about this and
maybe even snag one.
It's called the Intercil Intercept Jr. I have one in my collection.
Here is a picture:
http://online.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.InterceptJr.html
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org 
4:21 a.m.
My oldest electric computer is a PDP 8/L, probably manufactured in 1969.
It was used to collect experimental data from high speed particle physics
experiments. Its in working condition, with a slightly flakey capacitor
that I'm told can cause the system to reboot if its been in use for a
long time.
I'm still looking for a paper tape punch unit to support this unit, as
it didnt come with any peripherals.
-Lawrence LeMay
6:22 a.m.
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8:21 a.m.
I've got a PDP11/05 with 8K-words of core-memory.
I dont know when it was produced but I guess it would be
from somewhere between 1973-1975.
Sipke de Wal
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From: Lucas J Cashdollar <ljcst18+(a)pitt.edu>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: Whats you oldest computer
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
8:52 a.m.
A HP 9100 complete with extended memory, plotter, printer, interface
buffer and all the manuals. Made in 1968. The 9100 uses no ICs only dodes
and transistors. The memory is core. The readout shows the contents of the
X,Y and Z registers. It's built with a CRT that has been masked off so that
only three lines of data are displayed (X=xxxxxxx,Y=xxxxxxx and
Z=xxxxxx). You can see more at
<http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/hp9100.htm>.
I also have a DG Nova 1200 but I don't know how old it is.
Joe
10:06 a.m.
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31 Jul
31 Jul
2:12 a.m.
Sipke de Wal wrote:
I've got a PDP11/05 with 8K-words of core-memory.
I dont know when it was produced but I guess it would be
from somewhere between 1973-1975.
Jerome Fine replies:
I seem to remember that was the first Unibus PDP-11 I
used in 1975. Does yours system still work? Do you
have disk drives or paper tape? Do you use an operating
system? RT-11? Would you like a copy of RT-11 that
will work with your hardware? It will be a bit difficult
with so little memory, but probably possible. But it does
require at least a floppy disk drive or an RK05/RL01/RL02
or even a TU-58 if you have an RS-232 serial port (you could
toggle in the TU-58 boot program instead of the one for the
RK05). That was the one thing about the PDP-11/05 that
was really handy - the boot program in core memory could
be easily changed and did not disappear when the power was
turned off. Of course, I can't ever remember doing that in
the 3 years that I used the PDP-11/05 since the RK05 drives
were the only ones it ever had.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
30 Jul
30 Jul
12:42 p.m.
Lucas J Cashdollar skrev:
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
own.
Considering that "real" consumer micros weren't introduced until 1978 or so,
I
think that's a lower limit for a lot of us.
As for me, I think I hit the bottom at 1981 or 1982. Machines of mine from
that era would be the C64, the Spectrum, the TI-99/4A, the Dragon 32 and the
ABC- 800. I think I've mostly got the cheap boys' bedroom kind of machine,
introduced after 1980. =)
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3:26 p.m.
I just took second place at VCF East with a HP 2114A built in 1969.
But I also have a 2115 from 1968, and a 2116 from '69.
Let me know if you need any assistance with your restoration.
Lucas J Cashdollar wrote:
Hello All,
I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you
own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest
one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969.
Luke
4:19 p.m.
New subject: Inexpensive lights & switches computers (was: Whats you..)
Lucas J Cashdollar wrote:
I was just curious to know what was the oldest
computer any of you
[...]
One of my oldest systems is an SF-5000. Does anyone know what this
is? :-) Hint: it's over 20 years old, programmable, has lights and
switches, and cost well under US$100 when it was new.
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6:26 a.m.
New subject: Inexpensive lights & switches computers (was: Whats you..)
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New subject: Inexpensive lights & switches computers (was: Whats you..)
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Tony Duell wrote:
[SF-5000]
My guess (probably wildly off) is that it's one of
those multi-pole slide
switches + torch (flashlight) bulbs educational 'computers'. You program
it by patching wires between the switch contacts, and to the bulbs.
Good guess! :-)
'SF' = 'Science Fair'??? Which IIRC
was a name used by Radio Shack for
educational kits, etc at one time.
Yes, that's it! Has anyone written a program to simulate one of these
simple computers?
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