29 Sep
2011
29 Sep
'11
4:29 p.m.
Link to site:
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/09/arduino-based-kenbak-1-recreation.…
Now we need the scelbi-uino
29 Sep
29 Sep
4:54 p.m.
wow kool
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Christian Liendo <
christian_liendo at yahoo.com> wrote:
Link to site:
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/09/arduino-based-kenbak-1-recreation.…
Now we need the scelbi-uino
5:03 p.m.
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
wow kool
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! *BANG*
g.
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5:41 p.m.
adrino funny
been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ?*BANG*
6:13 p.m.
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, William Donzelli wrote:
Google Translate is working on the new "Illiterate word salad"
category, so soon this will not be a problem.
Yeah, and if that engine ever ships I bet it'll be hand delivered by Jesus
Christ while riding his faithful unicorn, Egon. *sigh*
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly
speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ?*BANG* 
5:04 p.m.
On 09/29/2011 11:54 AM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
wow kool
Cool, even. ;) *poke*
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly
speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
Yes, Arduinos are pretty neat. They're a good way to get started in
embedded development, I think. The only pitfall is "reaching escape
velocity" from the handholding that the Arduino platform gives you, to
being able to do real designs. But for many people, who just want to
solve a quick problem or build a quick widget rather than start a career
in embedded development, they can be very handy.
One thing that people tend not to realize is that one need not use
the Arduino software platform on Arduino hardware. The hardware is a
pretty generic hookup of an AVR microcontroller, just with a
standardized form-factor and pinout for stackable mezzanine modules.
I've programmed them (just this morning in fact) to the bare metal with
a standard GCC-based AVR cross-compilation environment.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
5:39 p.m.
kool
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>wrote:
On 09/29/2011 11:54 AM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
wow kool
Cool, even. ;) *poke*
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i
joined the hackerspace haha
Yes, Arduinos are pretty neat. They're a good way to get started in
embedded development, I think. The only pitfall is "reaching escape
velocity" from the handholding that the Arduino platform gives you, to being
able to do real designs. But for many people, who just want to solve a
quick problem or build a quick widget rather than start a career in embedded
development, they can be very handy.
One thing that people tend not to realize is that one need not use the
Arduino software platform on Arduino hardware. The hardware is a pretty
generic hookup of an AVR microcontroller, just with a standardized
form-factor and pinout for stackable mezzanine modules. I've programmed them
(just this morning in fact) to the bare metal with a standard GCC-based AVR
cross-compilation environment.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
7:12 p.m.
On 29 Sep 2011 at 12:04, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yes, Arduinos are pretty neat. They're a good
way to get started in
embedded development, I think. The only pitfall is "reaching escape
velocity" from the handholding that the Arduino platform gives you, to
being able to do real designs. But for many people, who just want to
solve a quick problem or build a quick widget rather than start a
career in embedded development, they can be very handy.
And more ambitiious projects can be done with the Digilent PIC32-
based Arduino upgrade (? I don't know exactly what to call it).
Comes with a pre-programmed boot loader, so you don't have to go
through Microchip's ridiculous programming (PicKit3--puts out ISP,
which is then translated by the PIC32 into JTAG. Really weird. Why
not just start with JTAG?) Tool chain is free, as usual.
For me, it's a bit too much handholding. I like to select the uC
version that meets the design requirements, instead of the other way
around.
--Chuck
9:09 p.m.
On 09/29/2011 02:12 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
And more ambitiious projects can be done with the
Digilent PIC32-
based Arduino upgrade (? I don't know exactly what to call it).
Comes with a pre-programmed boot loader, so you don't have to go
through Microchip's ridiculous programming (PicKit3--puts out ISP,
which is then translated by the PIC32 into JTAG. Really weird. Why
not just start with JTAG?) Tool chain is free, as usual.
Yes Microchip makes good stuff, but sometimes they seem a bit "out of
touch" with the way the rest of the world does things.
For me, it's a bit too much handholding. I like
to select the uC
version that meets the design requirements, instead of the other way
around.
I agree 100%. I end up using Philips (erm, NXP) LPC2000-series ARM7s
for most stuff these days, and for very tiny stuff I use one of the
small modern mcs51 implementations. Both treat me very, very well.
I just landed a big consulting job (one of the reasons I'm in the
process of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!) that will
have me doing a lot of AVR work. I'm looking forward to that. That was
why I was dicking with the Arduino board this morning (with bare metal,
no Arduino platform), to test my freshly-built cross-compilation and
programming toolchain.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
9:17 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
?I just landed a big consulting job (one of the
reasons I'm in the process
of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!)
Hope to see you at the Pittsburgh Mini Maker Faire next month.
that will have me doing a lot of AVR work. ?I'm
looking forward to that.
Cool. I mess with Arduino for fun and as an instructor for a couple of
groups in Columbus.
?That was why I was dicking
with the Arduino board this morning (with bare metal, no Arduino platform),
to test my freshly-built cross-compilation and programming toolchain.
Yep. Been doing that for a couple of years - works great. I use a
USBtinyISP to stuff the code down the pipe, though there are lots of
inexpensive or free options.
-ethan
9:46 p.m.
On 09/29/2011 04:17 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Neat!
I'm currently borrowing Dan's AVRISP mkII, but I have a Chinese clone
of that module on the way to me now.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Dave
McGuire<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Hey, you'll be there?! Yes, I'm thinking Dan Roganti (from whom I
now live right up the road) and I, as well as my fiancee' Autumn, will
almost definitely be in attendance. We'll have to catch up on that
privately before the event so we can find each other.
And since you'll be in town, you're welcome to come up to see my new
place. It's very much a work in progress, but I have a 4700-square-foot
room here filled to the gills with awesome hardware. Most of my old
iron is here now, though not quite all. My new place is in New
Kensington, about 18mi NE of Pittsburgh proper, right up Route 28.
I just landed a big consulting job (one of the
reasons I'm in the process
of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!)
Hope to see you at the Pittsburgh Mini Maker Faire next month. that will have
me doing a lot of AVR work. I'm looking forward to that.
Cool. I mess with Arduino for fun and as an instructor for a couple of
groups in Columbus. That was why
I was dicking
with the Arduino board this morning (with bare metal, no Arduino platform),
to test my freshly-built cross-compilation and programming toolchain.
Yep. Been doing that for a couple of years - works great. I use a
USBtinyISP to stuff the code down the pipe, though there are lots of
inexpensive or free options.
10:01 p.m.
On 29 Sep 2011 at 16:09, Dave McGuire wrote:
I just landed a big consulting job (one of the
reasons I'm in the
process of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!) that will
have me doing a lot of AVR work. I'm looking forward to that. That
was why I was dicking with the Arduino board this morning (with bare
metal, no Arduino platform), to test my freshly-built
cross-compilation and programming toolchain.
If you program in assembly, you'll learn to hate the AVR assembler.
(Yeah, I know there's one in GCC as well, but it's not the same
thing, as a *real* macro assembler). Must have been an assignment
for an intern.
There are better alternatives, if you're willing to work a bit to
keep things updated to the chip you're working on.
--Chuck
30 Sep
30 Sep
1:04 p.m.
New subject: Dave McGuire coming to da 'burgh
On 9/29/2011 4:09 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
I just landed a big consulting job (one of the
reasons I'm in the
process of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!)
Oh Christ, Dave McGuire is coming to Pittsburgh? There goes the
neighborhood. :)
I saw some links for the pittsburgh maker faire and hackpittsburgh. I
didn't really know about either. And a high altitude balloon project,
pretty cool.
Maybe I'll see you 'round sometime.
Keith
(South Hills of Pgh)
8:56 p.m.
New subject: Dave McGuire coming to da 'burgh
From: Keith Monahan
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 5:04 AM
Keith
(South Hills of Pgh)
Small world department:
Not that it's important, but my wife is originally from Masontown, and one
of my friends from my days at XKL lives in Vandergrift. His best friend in
high school was her tap dance partner when they were little kids.
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
9 Oct
9 Oct
8:30 a.m.
New subject: Dave McGuire coming to da 'burgh
On 09/30/2011 08:04 AM, Keith Monahan wrote:
Muaahhaaahahaaa!! B-)
I just
landed a big consulting job (one of the reasons I'm in the
process of moving from FL to PA, there's actual WORK here!)
Oh Christ, Dave McGuire is coming to Pittsburgh? There goes the
neighborhood. :) I saw some links for the pittsburgh maker faire and
hackpittsburgh. I
didn't really know about either. And a high altitude balloon project,
pretty cool.
Yes, I'll be going to the faire!
Maybe I'll see you 'round sometime.
Keith
(South Hills of Pgh)
We should definitely hang out sometime!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA
29 Sep
29 Sep
7:18 p.m.
On 9/29/2011 12:04 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yes, Arduinos are pretty neat. They're a good way
to get started in
embedded development, I think. The only pitfall is "reaching escape
velocity" from the handholding that the Arduino platform gives you, to
being able to do real designs.
My progression has gone from sort of 555-timer like applications, to the
PIC and Parallax SX microcontrollers, to FPGA applications. While neat,
indeed, I never cared for the simple but limited approach. Like the
Parallax Basic Stamp, for example. I'd rather start with something that
has tons of potential, even if it means a higher initial learning curve.
My goal is to learn enough about hardware design to enable me to
create whatever crazy project idea of the week I have. And the goal is
the journey, not delivering a finished product for the masses.
But for many people, who just want to
solve a quick problem or build a quick widget rather than start a career
in embedded development, they can be very handy.
Right. Sort of hardware/development platform for non-engineers. I
understand who they are targeting.
One thing that people tend not to realize is that one
need not use the
Arduino software platform on Arduino hardware. The hardware is a pretty
generic hookup of an AVR microcontroller, just with a standardized
form-factor and pinout for stackable mezzanine modules.
Yup. And the one benefit that we all derive from the arduino-movement is
cheaper eval/prototyping boards. There's enough competition and volume
that it is really pushing companies, and allowing them to produce in
enough bulk to make this stuff much more accessible.
Keith
30 Sep
30 Sep
9:43 a.m.
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
wow kool
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
I'd be ashamed if I produced such garbage in my mother tongue...
And I don't even know what you wanted to say, I just can't "parse" it.
Whatever I try, I constanly get a SYNTAX ERROR ;-)
Christian
4 Oct
4 Oct
12:09 a.m.
Hi Christian,
I work with youth quite a bit - Let me help translate.
----------------------
Wow - That is an amazing find. I am impressed.
Arduino: It is funny, because I am seeing more ane more references to the
Arduino platform quite a bit lately, especially at my local computing club
(Hacker Space). Actually, it was not until I joined Hacker Space that I
heard of the Arduino Platform. Quite funny that.
---------------------
:-)
Doug
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Christian Corti <
cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
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wow kool
adrino funny been seen that stuff allot latly speacialy at my local hacker
space infact never herd of their gear till i joined the hackerspace haha
I'd be ashamed if I produced such garbage in my mother tongue...
And I don't even know what you wanted to say, I just can't "parse" it.
Whatever I try, I constanly get a SYNTAX ERROR ;-)
Christian
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