Hi
Thanks for the information. However driving the scope is not the
problem.
I started out as a development engineer on VDU's in the early 1970's.
Hence setting up the scope is not an isssue.
This paticular problem is only related to the DEP and EXAM funtions.
The 8e has a cycle split into parts. DEP or EXAM occur in one cycle.
There's a Flipflop (RUN) on the 8330 board that is set in a time period
at the beginning
of the cycle by the debounced DEP key.
The memory address would have been set up manually or auto incremented
by a previous DEP.
The switch register contents are then transferred to the data bus and
the memory signalled to write into the preset address.
A signal called stop the clears the RUN flipflop at the end of the
cycle.
So within one cycle the contents of the switch register (data) should be
witten into memory when the DEP key is raised. Only it isn't
Rod Smallwood
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Subject: Re: PDP-8/e
Rod,
I use both Tek scopes here, a 465 and a TDS410A. Most Tek scopes have
the facility to perform a single sweep trigger to detect pulses such as
that. However old your Tek scope is, there's supposed to be a button to
select between 'Auto' and 'Single Swp' triggering. Also, there is a
trigger source selector, this can be set for Chan.1, since your most
likely to have one scope probe hooked up already. Then in the same area
of the trigger panel there is an arming indicator light. This will let
you know the scope is ready to detect a pulse after you set the trigger
level--adjusting this to the middle should be good enough. You can also
set the Horz sweep to somewhere between 100nsec and 500nsec to get a
visual with the brightness turned up alittle more since it will be
quick. If the pulse is detected the arming indicator will clear and the
trigger indicator will blink just once. You'll have to arm the trigger
again by selecting the "single sweep' button to check each signal.
hope that helps,
=Dan
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Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi
I recently aquired a complete PDP-8/e. As it had not run for a
while I took the usual precautions of reforming the electrolytics in
the PSU as well as dismantling the whole system and cleaning
everything.
I was rewarded with a working system. I started to run
some simple
toggle in programs and got to the stage of driving a VT 320 with a
display of whole the character set at 110baud.
I was about to toggle in the next test which would have been a
keyboard echo routine when I discovered I could no longer load
anything into memory.
Load address works but setting the data to load into memory in the
switch register and raising DEP no longer writes the data to memory.
.
RUN works so it looks like the timing plus the RUN/STOP flipflop are
running ok.
However one shot operations like DEP and EXAM are difficult to
diagnose as is hard to see a one off 500nS pulse.
I don't think its the memory itself ( 4 x 4K of core) as I have tried
each 4K bank on its own with the same result.
I do have the CPU manual and a decent Tektronix scope.
Has anybody any suggestions?
Rod Smallwood