18 Aug
1999
18 Aug
'99
2:24 p.m.
I've had plenty of PSU's fail, but the price is not as good an indicator of
the probability as you might believe. I've got two machines of about the
same age and content, yet one has had three PSU's over the 10 years it's
been in use, while the other has the one it had when I got it. I realize
that's unusual, but it can happen.
The unfortunate fact, Tony, is that here in the U.S, because people are
accustomed to paying <$25 for a case with power supply (250 Watts is the
rating) including shipping, it's hard to get vendors to stock replacement
fans of any sort, let alone good and quiet ones.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: imsai 2
> Well . . . let's see . . . fan = $40 in q1,
power supply including fan =
$33
In the UK, a decent (==ball bearings. Papst, Etri, somebody like that)
fan is under \pounds 20.00 in 1-off. PC PSUs are a little more, so it is
often worth replacing the fan.
in q1. . . cabinet, including power supply and
fan = $22 in q1 . . . not
Yes, but that's a PSU with a cheap fan that will fail in a few months.
When it does, doesn't it make sense to buy a better fan and replace just
the fan (which will then last many years) than put in another PSU that will
fail in another couple of months?
-tony
18 Aug
18 Aug
2:20 p.m.
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8:50 p.m.
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:24:54 -0600
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: imsai 2
X-To: <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
I've had plenty of PSU's fail, but the price
is not as good an indicator of
the probability as you might believe. I've got two machines of about the
same age and content, yet one has had three PSU's over the 10 years it's
been in use, while the other has the one it had when I got it. I realize
that's unusual, but it can happen.
Do you have database on all the failed PSUs brands? (Important)
I know of at least 3 brands that really take the cake for failing.
Jaba (rebranded Canadian seller)
Touch (remember now), Enermax and few other oddball names.
Remember, 10 dollar PSU can be branded as 100 dollar thing and 20
dollar PSU can be decent with ball bearing fan in it and sold as $25
thus. That is why I agree with that price thing can't be done.
Same story on heatsinks/fan. :-) In computer show, I even asked
pointed Q to few resellers about heatsink fan about ball bearing
type and I bought same type everywhere else and took home.
Then tore it apart, SLEEVE for a $20 USD thing. We sell decent
heatsinks w/ ball bearing always, nice thing is it's $15 canadian.
Even it's for 486, pentium, K6 etc. That is one other primary
reasons we sell boxed CPUs because of this.
Wizard
PS: I went through several heatsinks w/ fan types in few months
once while in US. Got tired of it and jerry-rigged a tallest heatsink
I can find in my junk hoard and a ball bearing out of a dead PSU in
front of motherboard where CPU is. That original arrangement went
for 3 years now.
Dick
19 Aug
19 Aug
8:15 a.m.
New subject: Quiet quite good fans
The unfortunate fact, Tony, is that here in the U.S,
because people are
accustomed to paying <$25 for a case with power supply (250 Watts is the
rating) including shipping, it's hard to get vendors to stock replacement
fans of any sort, let alone good and quiet ones.
Digikey has some nice ones. Big thread a while back in the pro audio
newsgroups about a quiet high quality fan replacements.
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