On 05/24/2017 03:58 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: Rob hit the nail. I think the collection has limited value at best and likely only a few select pieces. However, To make the point to someone I showed them what they put on the net and then compiled it into a picture of who, what, and even when. They immediately stopped posting all their daily activities and much of the personal stuff. In my case if you can't figure out where I am from a ham call your beyond hope and unlikely to be a risk. Allison

Anyway. I don't need to be added to any more pages that publicly list my contact info that I do not have control over, thank you. I need to see before I approve something like that. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:

On 5/24/2017 4:17 PM, Gary Oliver via cctalk wrote: You need glasses to read this message.

JP wrote: Lisa... or even their _drives_ go for lately? While an honor to see my old favorite- the Symbolics- in a line with Cray and Apple 1, they ain't THAT expensive. Just a couple guys this year got into it on a few auctions. I've seen 11/40s go for far more. :) On that note- I'd also *love* to see someone try and make it out of my house with one. Enjoy your hernia. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:23 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org > > > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Anybody that is paranoid about telling their location and the computer >> dinosaurs running in their basement needs a head alignment. >> >> Another case of some guy over-estimating the worth of the junk we hold on >> to. It is zero, of value to only us that play with it. >> >> And our numbers are diminishing every day. >> > > Randy, with all due respect, have you seen how much an Apple 1 or a > Lisa... or even their _drives_ go for lately? Symbolics machines? Crays? > One-offs or limited-run machines? > > While I don't disagree that a lot of us (without question myself included) > vastly overrate their collection of bits and pieces, that is not to say > that _some_ of them can be worth staggering amounts of money to the right > people. > > And people have broken into places for dollars worth of easily portable > things - let alone tens of thousands+ worth. > > Caution is not undue or unwise. > > - JP > > > ________________________________ >> From: jim stephens <jwsmail at jwsss.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:26 PM >> To: Randy Dawson; steven stengel >> Subject: Fwd: Re: Directory of old computer collectors >> >> >> Randy, >> I'm sort of running interference for STeve on the list. Since his email >> is cc'd here and he's a subscriber I suspect has seen this. >> >> the tosteve at yahoo.com<mailto:tosteve at yahoo.com> is his email for these >> computer matters. >> >> People are getting a bit torqued out over non issues, I think, thanks for >> chiming in. Hopefully we can all help each others collecting efforts with >> a bit of visibility. >> >> thanks >> jim >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: Directory of old computer collectors >> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 05:19:41 +0000 >> From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com><mailto:rdawson16 at hotmail.com >> > >> To: jim stephens <jwsmail at jwsss.com><mailto:jwsmail at jwsss.com>, >> steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com><mailto:tosteve at yahoo.com>, General >> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org><mailto: >> cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> >> >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> >> add me to your list. >> >> >> I am in Thousand Oaks, CA (Los Angeles area). >> >> >> I have a Tektronix 4051 vector graphics computer running, just BASIC >> games at the moment. I have a Compaq Model 1 with the PC-IDE flash setup, >> running Autocad, Versacad, Dr. Halo, Turbo-C, MS-Fortran. >> >> >> I am in conversation with some Tek guys to add a modern RAM flash drive >> to the 4051 to replace the DC300 tape. We are about to build some PCBs for >> it, let me know if you have a 4051. >> >> >> Randy >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org><mailto:cctalk-bounces at classi >> ccmp.org> on behalf of steven stengel via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org >> ><mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:05 PM >> To: jim stephens; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Subject: Re: Directory of old computer collectors >> >> I will post anything you want me to, just tell me. >> email is not necessary, a link or website will do fine as well.The map is >> intended to be a method to see who's where for assistance, trading, >> meet-ups, etc.There's hundreds of people here, but few know where each >> other live, I suppose. >> >> >> >> From: jim stephens via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org><mailto: >> cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Directory of old computer collectors >> >> >> >> On 5/22/2017 11:06 PM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 22 May 2017 16:29:22 -0400 >>> william degnan via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org><mailto: >>> cctalk at classiccmp.org>>> >>> can you send a link to the people who are on the list so they can see >>>> their listing? I personally don't mind as long as any record that >>>> includes me personally does not include my email address or phone >>>> number. I much prefer to send people to my web page contact form. >>>> >>> Folks who are on the list should have the opportunity to approve what >>> will and will not be posted about them. That's not only a legal >>> requirement in many States, but also common courtesy. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Lyle >>> >> You do get that this isn't cctalk, but one that people had already sent >> contact info for. I sent him revised publishable contact info for the >> list. I realize he probably made the request w/o 40 pages of consent >> forms to read, but he seems to just be asking to allow him to publish >> from that list, and a note here for anyone who didn't see it in their >> email, since the respondents came from here. >> >> thanks >> jim >> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 4:19 PM, steven stengel via cctalk < >>>> cctalk at classiccmp.org<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> In the past, I requested the email address and home city of old >>>>> computer collectors to a compile a list for my own purposes. >>>>> Over 120 people had responded, which is great! Now I want to make >>>>> this list PUBLIC with a Google map showing everyones location, >>>>> email, and collecting preferences. >>>>> Since I don't have anyone's explicit permission to publish their >>>>> information, I am now asking. >>>>> Please let me know if I may, or may not, place your information on >>>>> the public webpage. >>>>> Thanks- >>>>> Steven Stengelhttp://oldcomputers.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com